Article on sportsmanship, football vs. basketball (Marshall Henderson)

[GatrHeel]

Thought about posting this article in the Henderson thread, but it probably deserves its own. It's not perfect, but Dodd does a good job pointing out the differences between officiating in football and basketball. And pretty much demolishes Henderson in the process.

The sports seem to be headed in opposite directions in terms of that decorum. Since 2011, it has been possible for a team to have a touchdown taken off the board if a player "styled" on his way to the end zone. Kansas State got flagged for excessive celebration at a crucial point in the 2010 Pinstripe Bowl when a player merely saluted the crowd after a touchdown.

If that was the case over the weekend in the SEC tournament, Mississippi might have been shut out. Starting last season, college football players were required to go the sidelines for a play if their helmet popped off. You know what happened? Fewer helmets popped off. Conduct changed. The SEC has statistics to prove it.

College basketball players get a magazine cover if they lose their minds. Result, at least this week: more magazine covers. A Google search of "Marshall Henderson" this week got back 36 million results for the celebri-guard who misses 62 percent of his shots and is on his fourth school.

What a country. Ask Henderson

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebask...ifferent-rules

[MJGator8104]

Thanks for the link.

[gtr2x]

Had a friend ask me the other day why there was no unsportsmanlike conduct penalty/foul in basketball. If there is, it certainly isnt enforced.

[elrongator]

Originally Posted by gtr2x

Had a friend ask me the other day why there was no unsportsmanlike conduct penalty/foul in basketball. If there is, it certainly isnt enforced.

This is the real problem. Simple solution is to "enforce" ourselves if the refs refuse to do it. Elbow that punk right in the jaw and knock some of his teeth out. Sure you might get a technical and an ejection, but that's what an "enforcer" is for.
Then in the post game press conference call it what it was.

Question: Why did you flagrantly foul Henderson and knock out his teeth with that obviously intentional elbow?
Answer: I retaliated for his extremely disrespectful behavior that went otherwise unchecked during our game. He can expect the same again if he continues to conduct himself in an expressly and intentional inflammatory unsportsmanlike manner.
Here at Florida we encourage and respect healthy robust athletic competition. Nevertheless, we will not sit by idly and allow a single player to disrespect our team, our fans, and the game we play without retaliating if such behavior is unchecked or condoned by league officials. If the league wants to stop the bleeding, then stop the out of control jack asses from running rampant with unsportsmanlike conduct or the situation will repeat itself.
Get the retaliation more attention and make that punk bleed. He'll stop when he loses some teeth, gets a broken nose and maybe a cracked orbital bone in his face from three consecutive SEC matchups who self enforce.

[allig8ralli]

Originally Posted by elrongator

This is the real problem. Simple solution is to "enforce" ourselves if the refs refuse to do it. Elbow that punk right in the jaw and knock some of his teeth out. Sure you might get a technical and an ejection, but that's what an "enforcer" is for.
Then in the post game press conference call it what it was.

Question: Why did you flagrantly foul Henderson and knock out his teeth with that obviously intentional elbow?
Answer: I retaliated for his extremely disrespectful behavior that went otherwise unchecked during our game. He can expect the same again if he continues to conduct himself in an expressly and intentional inflammatory unsportsmanlike manner.
Here at Florida we encourage and respect healthy robust athletic competition. Nevertheless, we will not sit by idly and allow a single player to disrespect our team, our fans, and the game we play without retaliating if such behavior is unchecked or condoned by league officials. If the league wants to stop the bleeding, then stop the out of control jack asses from running rampant with unsportsmanlike conduct or the situation will repeat itself.
Get the retaliation more attention and make that punk bleed. He'll stop when he loses some teeth, gets a broken nose and maybe a cracked orbital bone in his face from three consecutive SEC matchups who self enforce.

I'm sure it crossed the minds of the coaches and players but unfortunately we can't afford to lose anyone at this point in the season. One poster did make a nice comment said to send Kurtz out there to clean clock him. We are 16-0 when he plays!

[gatorich]

Originally Posted by elrongator

This is the real problem. Simple solution is to "enforce" ourselves if the refs refuse to do it. Elbow that punk right in the jaw and knock some of his teeth out. Sure you might get a technical and an ejection, but that's what an "enforcer" is for.
Then in the post game press conference call it what it was.

Question: Why did you flagrantly foul Henderson and knock out his teeth with that obviously intentional elbow?
Answer: I retaliated for his extremely disrespectful behavior that went otherwise unchecked during our game. He can expect the same again if he continues to conduct himself in an expressly and intentional inflammatory unsportsmanlike manner.
Here at Florida we encourage and respect healthy robust athletic competition. Nevertheless, we will not sit by idly and allow a single player to disrespect our team, our fans, and the game we play without retaliating if such behavior is unchecked or condoned by league officials. If the league wants to stop the bleeding, then stop the out of control jack asses from running rampant with unsportsmanlike conduct or the situation will repeat itself.
Get the retaliation more attention and make that punk bleed. He'll stop when he loses some teeth, gets a broken nose and maybe a cracked orbital bone in his face from three consecutive SEC matchups who self enforce.

WOW, that's pretty severe there elron....of course I agree 100% with everything you said.

[exiledgator]

If Marshall Henderson conducts his off-the-court life with the same flamboyant self-aggrandizement void of any resemblance of respect for his fellow citizens that he displays for his competitors on the court, he'll get his just rewards.

[GatorLurker]

Originally Posted by gtr2x

Had a friend ask me the other day why there was no unsportsmanlike conduct penalty/foul in basketball. If there is, it certainly isnt enforced.

It is in the rule book:

Section 8. Officials’ Duties Related to Conduct

The officials shall:

Art. 1. Penalize unsportsmanlike conduct by a player, coach, substitute, team
attendant or follower.

...

Art. 3. Technical Fouls

c. (Men) CLASS A and CLASS B technical fouls. A CLASS A technical
foul involves unsportsmanlike conduct or behavior by a player, substitute,
coach or bench personnel. A CLASS B technical foul is an infraction of
the rules that neither involves contact with an opponent nor causes contact
with an opponent and falls below the limit of an unsportsmanlike act.
Examples of CLASS A and CLASS B technical fouls shall include:
1. Unsportsmanlike conduct; using profanity, vulgarity, taunting, baiting
(CLASS A);

[UFG8rGuy3283]

Originally Posted by GatorLurker

It is in the rule book:

Section 8. Officials’ Duties Related to Conduct

The officials shall:

Art. 1. Penalize unsportsmanlike conduct by a player, coach, substitute, team
attendant or follower.

...

Art. 3. Technical Fouls

c. (Men) CLASS A and CLASS B technical fouls. A CLASS A technical
foul involves unsportsmanlike conduct or behavior by a player, substitute,
coach or bench personnel. A CLASS B technical foul is an infraction of
the rules that neither involves contact with an opponent nor causes contact
with an opponent and falls below the limit of an unsportsmanlike act.
Examples of CLASS A and CLASS B technical fouls shall include:
1. Unsportsmanlike conduct; using profanity, vulgarity, taunting, baiting
(CLASS A);

There can be no other explanation for this not being enforced other than the SEC giving the directive not to do so. Plain and simple.

[Lawdog88]

It looks to me like the taunting must be directed to "another player or bench personnel"; but that the closest T violation for unsportsmanship against Henderson would have been in the catch-all category, of "inciting undesirable crowd reaction."

Whatever that means.

Section 5. (Men) CLASS A Unsporting Technical Infractions

Art. 1. A player or substitute committing an unsportsmanlike act including,
but not limited to, the following:

a. Disrespectfully addressing or contacting an official or gesturing in
such a manner as to indicate resentment.

b. Using profanity or vulgarity; taunting, baiting or ridiculing another
player or bench personnel; or pointing a finger at or making obscene
gestures toward another player or bench personnel.

c. Inciting undesirable crowd reaction.

[Brewski]

Wasn't there some unsportsmanlike conduct penalty for slamming the ball or tossing it in the air? Maybe just delay of game.

[A100]

Just don't do a pull-up on the rim.

[jmoliver]

In the national championship against OSU that center pulled up on the rim on EVER shot. It never got called.

[Jstewie15]

In the national championship against OSU Greg Oden pulled up on the rim on EVER shot. It never got called.


Fixed it for u.