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03-17-2013, 03:31 PM
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Heisman Winner
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Originally Posted by socraticsilence
If this was 2014 I'd agree but I don't think you can say we have a top 5 Secondary next season when we're replacing both safeties- could they get there, oh no doubt- but just replacing 50% of your starters doesn't bode for top 5 at least initially.
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Name the the ones that will be better socratics. I think what you and others keep forgetting is other teams lose players to and are not replacing them with the talent Florida is. What team is returning all of their secondary that was great last year?
Lets actually look at the line ups. Regular defense
CB Roberson
CB Watkins
S Riggs
S Gorman - could be Maye or Showers
Nickle- what we are in the most
CB Roberson
CB Purifoy
NB Poole
S Watkins
S Riggs
1 guy hasn't played significant time. You are not going to find 5 better DB groups than what we put on the field in nickle.
Most teams in the country would have VH3 penciled in for significant snaps next year. While I think he will play its not needed. UGA is starting a true freshmen and a true sophomore at the safety spot.
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03-17-2013, 03:32 PM
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All SEC
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Originally Posted by GATORAZ
Riggs has proven he can play and he will be one of the guys at safety or the nickle spot.
Please stop with the Orr has done nothing stuff, he gave quality snaps last year until he got sick. Jacobs also gave us a lot quality snaps. Yes they will be asked to do more that is what happens in college people graduate others step in. Guess who else Florida can and will play at tackle? Dominic Easley. Just because Easley is not on the depth chart at tackle doesn't mean he is not going to play there next year. Like I said in what you quoted you have 3 guys that played starters snaps last year in Fowler Bullard and Ealsey. You have two guys that played solid back ups snaps and you add 2 very highly rated JUCOs. I think they are both better than Jacobs was this this time last year.
What others teams do you think can make a case for best Dline in the SEC? South Carolina and who else?
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What has he done?! He's been widely regarded as one of the most inconsistent players on the roster and, to my knowledge, has had one DECENT game against Kentucky; and it wasn't even a breakout game! Other than that, WHAT HAS THE GUY DONE? He's a starter now, and he's recorded a whopping 25 tackles in two years. That doesn't sound like the "anchor" of one of the top lines in the country, my friend. I ain't lettin' that one ride. Btw, what big plays did Jacobs record to make you think he's going to bust out all of sudden? You gotta do better than that to convince me that we're set at tackle. Easley, Bullard and Fowler are proven, QUALITY players you can legitimately build a line around at this point, and they're all coming from the outside-at least at this point.
Any one of Georgia, LSU, South Carolina, 'Bama, Georgia or even Auburn can boast that they have have the talent to field the best line in the SEC. I don't care what those schools lost, they just reload. Go back and look at some of the players those schools have brought in. We have talent, but there is no proven production inside to go around boasting that we have one of the top lines in the country. Not yet, anyway.
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03-17-2013, 03:43 PM
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#123
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Heisman Winner
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Originally Posted by NoahBeanBizzel
What has he done?! He's been widely regarded as one of the most inconsistent players on the roster and, to my knowledge, has had one DECENT game against Kentucky; and it wasn't even a breakout game! Other than that, WHAT HAS THE GUY DONE? He's a starter now, and he's recorded a whopping 25 tackles in two years. That doesn't sound like the "anchor" of one of the top lines in the country, my friend. I ain't lettin' that one ride. Btw, what big plays did Jacobs record to make you think he's going to bust out all of sudden? You gotta do better than that to convince me that we're set at tackle. Easley, Bullard and Fowler are proven, QUALITY players you can legitimately build a line around at this point, and they're all coming from the outside-at least at this point.
Any one of Georgia, LSU, South Carolina, 'Bama, Georgia or even Auburn can boast that they have have the talent to field the best line in the SEC. I don't care what those schools lost, they just reload. Go back and look at some of the players those schools have brought in. We have talent, but there is no proven production inside to go around boasting that we have one of the top lines in the country. Not yet, anyway.
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I told you what he is done he has given quality snap it is really that simple.That is what you want out of your back ups along the defensive line. LOL at you wanting highlight reel plays from interior Dlinemen.
Do you realize Easley has played a lot inside? CWM even said he will play both next year. To say Easley is not proven inside is ridiculous and that is what you are saying.
So you dont care what those schools lost but you want to talk about what Florida lost? Look at who is project to anchor some of those Dlines you mentioned. Brandon Ivory has very similar stats to Leon Orr.
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03-17-2013, 04:12 PM
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#124
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Junior
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Originally Posted by whitelakegator
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"Interesting" is a one way of referring to that article... "scary" is another word that comes to mind reading the details about Driskel's past approach to the game (as described).
Our 11-2 record looks more impressive every day it seems.
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03-17-2013, 04:31 PM
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#125
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Heisman Finalist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorByte
"Interesting" is a one way of referring to that article... "scary" is another word that comes to mind reading the details about Driskel's past approach to the game (as described).
Our 11-2 record looks more impressive every day it seems.
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It concerns me both about Jeff and about the coaching staff- its like reading one of those "this year Mike Vick's buckling down" articles, honestly reading that makes me even more worried than I was previously about Jeff ever getting it because evidently he can't handle competition and needs everything handed to him before he even starts to do the basic work necessary to be even an average QB.
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03-17-2013, 05:46 PM
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#126
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All American
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GATORAZ
UGA is starting a true freshmen and a true sophomore at the safety spot.
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Who are they? We're not even through spring practice and you know our starters!
BTW, most folks that actually follow our team think senior Connor Norman and junior Corey Moore are the front runners.
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03-17-2013, 06:06 PM
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#127
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Heisman Winner
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Originally Posted by DawgFanFromAlabam
Who are they? We're not even through spring practice and you know our starters!
BTW, most folks that actually follow our team think senior Connor Norman and junior Corey Moore are the front runners.
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You think you guys are going to start a walk on this year?  Going to be a long year for UGA on defense then.
Those guys would be Trey Mathews and JHC (lets see if he can cover)
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03-17-2013, 07:08 PM
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#128
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Lulu and Junior Are My Parents
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1. Tennessee
2. Tennessee
3. Tennessee
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No, but seriously
1. Alabama
2. Georgia
3. OSU
4. Oregon
5. Texas A&M
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03-17-2013, 07:25 PM
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#129
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All American
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Originally Posted by GATORAZ
You think you guys are going to start a walk on this year?  Going to be a long year for UGA on defense then.
Those guys would be Trey Mathews and JHC (lets see if he can cover)
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Both are on schollies. Norman earned his before the season started last year. And UGA did OK a few years with a walk on safety named Muschamp who grew into the position.
Most think JHC has grown too big for S and will move to LB, just like Alec Ogletree did. But I'm betting had you guys gotten JHC (like you really wanted) he'd be the second coming of RFN right now...
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03-17-2013, 07:35 PM
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#130
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All SEC
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Five teams to look out for?
1) 'Bama-Get used to it.
2) Ohio State-Easy schedule, and they're the most talented Big 10 team.
3) Texas A&M-You can't count that team out of any game with Manziel.
4) Texas-If it ever comes together in Austin...only team that can run with the SEC winner in a national title game.
5) Stanford-Not talented enough, though, to win it all.
Georgia will never win a national title under Richt. It just won't happen. I like their team, but Richt and his staff will buffalo at least one or two-per usual-they should win. We're still a year away.
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03-17-2013, 07:49 PM
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#131
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Heisman Winner
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Originally Posted by DawgFanFromAlabam
Both are on schollies. Norman earned his before the season started last year. And UGA did OK a few years with a walk on safety named Muschamp who grew into the position.
Most think JHC has grown too big for S and will move to LB, just like Alec Ogletree did. But I'm betting had you guys gotten JHC (like you really wanted) he'd be the second coming of RFN right now...
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that was 20 years ago lol  UGA had plenty of scholarships to give out because of people leaving the program the past few year. Doesn't change the fact Norman joined the team a walk on.
Moore has some talent lets see if he can step up.
You thinking JHC will move to LB just further proves my point about lets see if he can cover if he plays safety. I do like his athleticism. That being said you are going to move a kid that is 6'5 218 to LB? I could have sworn he is spending most of his time at strong safety during spring practice.
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03-17-2013, 07:53 PM
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#132
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Premium Member
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Originally Posted by DawgFanFromAlabam
Where did you get that stat?
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I know this isn't the best answer but it was in an article I read on SB Nation or something not too long ago. Wish I had the link, sorry for once I have nothing to back it up I just remember whoops =)
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03-18-2013, 04:02 PM
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#133
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Junior
Join Date: Aug 2010
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I don't see anyway OSU or Oregon beats an SEC team in the NC game. The only way I see Oregon or OSU winning the title is if they play each other which could happen if the SEC teams get 1 or 2 losses. So the question for me becomes who the polls put first a 1 loss SEC team or a no loss Big 10 pac 12 school. So my order would be:
Bama
T AM
OSU
Oregon
Stanford
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03-18-2013, 07:35 PM
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#134
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Senior
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Gainesville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sleeze
UGA might have played or rotated a bunch of guys last year..
But u could see a drop off when they did play too.
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What happened was that they nearly lost to Kentucky.
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03-18-2013, 08:28 PM
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#135
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All American
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlesUF09
What happened was that they nearly lost to Kentucky.
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Louisiana-Lafeyette. It's a draw.
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03-18-2013, 08:29 PM
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#136
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Sophomore
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 376
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorByte
"Interesting" is a one way of referring to that article... "scary" is another word that comes to mind reading the details about Driskel's past approach to the game (as described).
Our 11-2 record looks more impressive every day it seems.
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GB: I am surprised this article with his direct quotes wasn't posted on its own thread. JD admits to under preparing in his SOPHOMORE year(not freshman). It solidified for me that he is missing it between the ears.
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03-18-2013, 10:31 PM
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#137
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Heisman Candidate
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,108
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Quote:
Originally Posted by acegator
I don't see anyway OSU or Oregon beats an SEC team in the NC game. The only way I see Oregon or OSU winning the title is if they play each other which could happen if the SEC teams get 1 or 2 losses. So the question for me becomes who the polls put first a 1 loss SEC team or a no loss Big 10 pac 12 school. So my order would be:
Bama
T AM
OSU
Oregon
Stanford
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Oregon lost Chip Kelley. I put them in my top 5 but that coaching change may be their undoing this year.
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03-19-2013, 10:17 AM
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#138
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Heisman Finalist
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 4,210
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whitelakegator
GB: I am surprised this article with his direct quotes wasn't posted on its own thread. JD admits to under preparing in his SOPHOMORE year(not freshman). It solidified for me that he is missing it between the ears.
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It'd be one thing if he was Tim or Rex out there on the field (heck, Rex loved to party) but you think the fact that he was horrible would've be a motivating factor- I guess getting carried along to wins again and again made Jeff think he was doing enough.
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03-20-2013, 12:56 PM
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#139
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Junior
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 441
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Quote:
Originally Posted by geauxgator1
Oregon lost Chip Kelley. I put them in my top 5 but that coaching change may be their undoing this year.
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That is a good point. I forgot about that.
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03-20-2013, 05:46 PM
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#140
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Recruit
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 37
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SEC West champion
Ohio State
Gators
Louisville
Stanford
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