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your_perfect_enemy · 03-15-2013, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by gatorinmi

I just rewatched it and even the article is wrong. He went 4 of 7 on the last bunch of FTs. They scored 8 pts but could've scored 11. lol

They didnt say what the line was on sportscenter but said him missing those cost a lot of people in vegas money.

gatorfansrule · 03-15-2013, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by InstiGATOR1

Not to me unless the idiot officials in that game missed the first foul and called the second when he was throwing the ball toward the hoop. Those guys really botched the end of that game and as the ESPN guys said should be done for the year if not forever as officials.

The first guy never even got a hand on the guy, he couldn't catch him. The foul was called on the 2nd guy who collided/ran over the guy as he was throwing the ball towards the hoop.

gatorfansrule · 03-15-2013, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jhsgator

Those officials are absolute scum and should never be allowed on a court again.

I don't see anything that these refs did wrong except for maybe T-ing up the coach twice. But I don't know what the coach said or did to deserve it, maybe he did.

**GothamGator** · 03-15-2013, 10:14 AM

You can see the initial ref hesitate after making the foul call. He seems to realize only after the fact that this is a technical foul because of when it occurred. I can't argue with the call. Just a stupid play by the Richmond player to risk a foul under those circumstances.

Also, I'm not sure why that is considered a dead ball situation that requires a technical. It was a live ball that was in the air, and the players were positioning for a rebound. Perhaps the rule is that you treat that like a dead ball situation but that seems wrong to me.

Finally, the call for 3 free throws was a joke. Completely ridiculous.

bakaduin · 03-15-2013, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GothamGator

You can see the initial ref hesitate after making the foul call. He seems to realize only after the fact that this is a technical foul because of when it occurred. I can't argue with the call. Just a stupid play by the Richmond player to risk a foul under those circumstances.

Also, I'm not sure why that is considered a dead ball situation that requires a technical. It was a live ball that was in the air, and the players were positioning for a rebound. Perhaps the rule is that you treat that like a dead ball situation but that seems wrong to me.

Finally, the call for 3 free throws was a joke. Completely ridiculous.

Agree with ya. The foul was so blatant it had to be called. My only issue with it is on the 1 and 1 when you are fighting for a rebound you can't know if it is going to be dead ball (the shot goes in) or live ball (the shot misses). If it is a live ball foul its two more shots for Charlotte and they have the chance to go up 1 if they make them all. Instead they get the ball back which is the real killer.

gatorinmi · 03-15-2013, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by your_perfect_enemy

They didnt say what the line was on sportscenter but said him missing those cost a lot of people in vegas money.

I don't know what it was either. Charlotte was the lower seeded team weren't they?

**GothamGator** · 03-15-2013, 02:00 PM

I checked the rule book. It is a live ball until it falls through the net. At that point it becomes a dead ball again. The final shove that drew the foul was after the ball had gone through the net, so by the letter of the law it was a techinical foul. That said, they were engaged well before that, and a foul could have been called earlier in the play, so it seems to be against the spirit of the rule to call it a technical at that point.

Either way, it was another 2 free throws for Charlotte, but perhaps with a less reliable foul shooter, since it would have been their big guy inside and not the guard.

gatorfansrule · 03-15-2013, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GothamGator

Finally, the call for 3 free throws was a joke. Completely ridiculous.

Can you explain why the 3 free throws was a joke? What I saw was the player picked up his dribble before he was fouled and as he was being fouled he was throwing the ball toward the basket. It was a very heady play by the Charlotte guy. The Richmond guy that was chasing the Charlotte guy did not get a hand on him, so no foul there. The guy that fouled was the one that body checked the shooter.

qwghlmgator · 03-15-2013, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tec68

Horrible calls by the refs.

First reaction: someone lent Butler's pet officiating crew to UNCC.

Second Reaction: The refs established in the Arizona game last year in Gainesville that a player is not required to be shooting or even be facing the basket for them to call any foul a shooting foul and award three shots. All you have to do apparently is throw the ball more or less straight up in the air.

Let's remember this occasion to show our league pride!

"The SEC: We Show Other Leagues' Officials How to Suck"

**GothamGator** · 03-15-2013, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gatorfansrule

Can you explain why the 3 free throws was a joke? What I saw was the player picked up his dribble before he was fouled and as he was being fouled he was throwing the ball toward the basket. It was a very heady play by the Charlotte guy. The Richmond guy that was chasing the Charlotte guy did not get a hand on him, so no foul there. The guy that fouled was the one that body checked the shooter.

By my view, he only bothered attempting a shot after he was fouled. He basically chucked the ball at the basket from half court on the off chance a ref was stupid enough to give him three shots. In this case, the refs were that stupid.

qwghlmgator · 03-15-2013, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GothamGator

By my view, he only bothered attempting a shot after he was fouled. He basically chucked the ball at the basket from half court on the off chance a ref was stupid enough to give him three shots. In this case, the refs were that stupid.

Which is exactly why a lot of coaches don't want to foul in that situation: stupid refs.

tommyuf21 · 03-15-2013, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GothamGator

By my view, he only bothered attempting a shot after he was fouled. He basically chucked the ball at the basket from half court on the off chance a ref was stupid enough to give him three shots. In this case, the refs were that stupid.

And this led to the Richmond coach losing it and getting tossed. It made a not so good situation turn into an absolute farce.

KronoGator · 03-16-2013, 12:31 AM

First T was a good call IMO and it was those 2 shots and not having the ball that lost Richmond the game, everything that came after can be argued but they had already lost it.