Updated Scout Top 300 (3/7/13)

[GATORAZ]

Originally Posted by gator1986

You can build around Manziel, it's sort of going to be a Cam Netwon or Tim Tebow, run around till someone's open, or take off lol. And your correct, all I was saying is that they could definitely extend out this way, I would say getting a 3-4 star player out of Florida is a great result, but typically they will stick to Texas, Arizona, and I know last year they got a few out of Louisiana, Cali, and Kansas. One out of Arizona , so it seems those are the teams hot beds. Muschamp has ties to Texas and doesn't Derek Lewis?

You need players around you. The only person that has really done it on their own was Cam but JF is no Cam. Even Cam had the best DT in the country on his team that year.

On offense they will need Tre Williams and Jaquay Williams to step up. On D its all hands on deck. Thier biggest issue is what happens when Bama catches up. They were able to beat Bama because it was after the LSU game and Bama doesn't really have the personnel to match up with A & M well especially at the safety position. Saban will address that soon. They are not going to out recruit Bama or LSU over the next few years so I have a hard time seeing them go to a NC as others suggest. That being said the window of opportunity is open in 2014 when Bama and LSU are breaking in new QB's.

[gator1986]

I could see them going to North Carolina for a player or two. 2014 I can really see it coming down to A&M and Ole Miss, and if they can step it up with the classes that they are recruiting. Alabama's back secondary was definitely weaker this season and it showed in the A&M game, and of course Saban won't miss a beat and he will have that spot filled, and Alabama should be able to get their redemption this year. They'll have to watch out because on offense alone they obviously have Manziel, but with RB- Malone, and WR's Evans and Kennedy they can still be as lethal. Not to mention a possible early draftee in Jake Matthews (OT) and their defensive front seven is young maybe inexperienced but their secondary should hold up pretty well.

[619_Gator]

Isn't Manziel eligible to enter the draft after next year? Red shirt Soph. He seems like he would go. But then again.. He's living an almost NFL lifestyle now. Parents have money.

[GATORAZ]

Originally Posted by 619_Gator

Isn't Manziel eligible to enter the draft after next year? Red shirt Soph. He seems like he would go. But then again.. He's living an almost NFL lifestyle now. Parents have money.

People thought Tebow would go early too. Maziel is 6 feet tall I dont think the NFL will be begging for him to enter the league but you never know. Next years QB class is weak again but I will take A.J. McCarron Aaron Murray Teddy Bridgewater over Johnny football.

[LimeyGator]

Originally Posted by GATORAZ

the A & M love fest is getting ridiculous

Originally Posted by GATORAZ

limey has them winning a NC soon

Sorry, AZ. I forgot you were the only one allowed an opinion on these boards...

If we disagree, so be it.

For me, the leap to assume they could be a NC contender soon isn't that hard to comprehend. Texas is obviously a recruiting hotbed and they will draw a lot of talent nationally thanks to Johnny Manziel's prominence last year, A&M joining the SEC and the fact that they'll possibly have 2 of the Top 8-10 picks in the NFL draft this April to showcase how their staff is helping their kids. Their arrow is trending up.

They were the only team to beat Bama last year - it's not impossible to think they can become competitive in the SEC West and challenge to win it. Remember, all being well, a 1-loss SEC team is going to the NC game as things stand, all else equal.

Bama at Home, LSU in Baton Rouge and an SEC Championship game is all that stands in their way from doing it next year, even. I've gone on record on this board too as saying I think they will be media favourites to beat Bama at home in Week 3 in 2013. I fully expect them to be ranked top 5 by the time they face LSU (if not No.1) in November.

Why that's a "love fest" I don't know - it's based on logic and rational assessment. Your attitude makes you look bitter/jealous and I expected a little better of you, even if you disagree with the viewpoint.

[killercroc_UF]

Originally Posted by GATORAZ

People thought Tebow would go early too. Maziel is 6 feet tall I dont think the NFL will be begging for him to enter the league but you never know. Next years QB class is weak again but I will take A.J. McCarron Aaron Murray Teddy Bridgewater over Johnny football.

Yeah. I have a feeling Teddy Bridgewater and A.J. will be hot commodities when they come out.

[tugboat0278]

Originally Posted by GATORAZ

They have him listed as a corner I dont really disagree. If he plays corner he is a pretty average player high 3 star low 4 star. If you think of him as a Safety/ nickle corner he is a solid 4 star player. Pretty much everybody has him ranked as a 3 */4*r 247 has him at a 90 and 89 is a 3 star player.

I think he is a lot like Elam could play emergency corner but best position is at safety and nickle. He fits our system very well which is all that really matters

Matt Elam 5'10 208
Brian Poole 5' 10" 206
Duke Dawson 5'10 188 will add prob 7 lbs in college

that would be a great succession at the nickle spot Duke is a good player not sure he is the athlete Elam and Poole were.

He's from my hometown and trust me he's every bit of a 4 star he will knock your head off big time header

[tugboat0278]

Originally Posted by GATORAZ

They have him listed as a corner I dont really disagree. If he plays corner he is a pretty average player high 3 star low 4 star. If you think of him as a Safety/ nickle corner he is a solid 4 star player. Pretty much everybody has him ranked as a 3 */4*r 247 has him at a 90 and 89 is a 3 star player.

I think he is a lot like Elam could play emergency corner but best position is at safety and nickle. He fits our system very well which is all that really matters

Matt Elam 5'10 208
Brian Poole 5' 10" 206
Duke Dawson 5'10 188 will add prob 7 lbs in college

that would be a great succession at the nickle spot Duke is a good player not sure he is the athlete Elam and Poole were.

He is from my hometown Cross City Florida I've seen him play he's a big hitter and he's definitely a 4 star he'll make it just like Nick Collins did watch out Dukes a big player

[tugboat0278]

Originally Posted by GATORAZ

They have him listed as a corner I dont really disagree. If he plays corner he is a pretty average player high 3 star low 4 star. If you think of him as a Safety/ nickle corner he is a solid 4 star player. Pretty much everybody has him ranked as a 3 */4*r 247 has him at a 90 and 89 is a 3 star player.

I think he is a lot like Elam could play emergency corner but best position is at safety and nickle. He fits our system very well which is all that really matters

Matt Elam 5'10 208
Brian Poole 5' 10" 206
Duke Dawson 5'10 188 will add prob 7 lbs in college

that would be a great succession at the nickle spot Duke is a good player not sure he is the athlete Elam and Poole were.

Originally Posted by killercroc_UF

Yeah. I have a feeling Teddy Bridgewater and A.J. will be hot commodities when they come out.

I guess everybody is just totally forgetting about a man named Doug Flutie did he go to the NFL yeah I think you did was he small yeah I think it was never count out the small guys I think about that

[tugboat0278]

Originally Posted by killercroc_UF

Yeah. I have a feeling Teddy Bridgewater and A.J. will be hot commodities when they come out.

Doug Flutie

[GATORAZ]

Originally Posted by tugboat0278

I guess everybody is just totally forgetting about a man named Doug Flutie did he go to the NFL yeah I think you did was he small yeah I think it was never count out the small guys I think about that

I am confused how is talking about Doug Flutie helping the case for Johnny football leaving early to go to the NFL?

[GATORAZ]

Originally Posted by tugboat0278

He's from my hometown and trust me he's every bit of a 4 star he will knock your head off big time header

I like Duke I think he will be a good player for the Gators