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Old 03-08-2013, 03:34 PM   #41
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While I like wiki for it's references, the site can be modified at any time by anyone.
Wiki, for many items, is actually a pretty good reference. At least in my field in which I have some expertise in which to judge it. It's not perfect, but then again, how trustworthy are any encyclopedias?

More on topic, I don't think the problem is with the numbers, per se, but in calling them czars in the first place. It's a bogeyman catchphrase for what is a policy adviser, nothing more.

Now if some have a problem with the pres having more advisers; that is, aside from the costs (salaries), then that seems sort of small-minded. Hell, why wouldn't we want quite a few people advising the president on a whole range of issues, especially those that require specific expertise?
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Old 03-08-2013, 04:32 PM   #42
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the prez doesn't give a hoot about spending and it is ludicrous how you people keep defending him on it

the cutting of the WH tours was just a political stunt-

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...-family-trips/

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The president's travel expenses alone, for the golfing outing with Tiger Woods, would pay for a year of White House visits," Fox News contributor Charles Krauthammer said Thursday. "So I suggest that perhaps he curtail the travel."
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Old 03-08-2013, 04:44 PM   #43
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What bill, do you expect the president never to leave the white house? This is nothing more than a self-generated phony issue for the right to get unrighteously indignant about.

I still haven't seen anyone actually find the factual documentation of the claim in the op. I wonder why that is...
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Old 03-08-2013, 05:00 PM   #44
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do I expect him to never leave the WH-no-but I do expect him to spend our money modestly in our time of financial turmoil
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Old 03-08-2013, 05:07 PM   #45
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What bill, do you expect the president never to leave the white house? This is nothing more than a elf-created phony issue for the right to get unrighteously indignant about.

I still haven't seen anyone actually find the factual documentation of the claim in the op. I wonder why that is...
We both know why, of course.
But it has been pointed out that the so-called full-time "dog handler" is not.
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Old 03-08-2013, 05:25 PM   #46
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We both know why, of course.
But it has been pointed out that the so-called full-time "dog handler" is not.
Yep. We've seen this same routine ad nauseum...

Produce the evidence and then let's talk.
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Old 03-08-2013, 05:39 PM   #47
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When his highness flew down to Palm City, Florida for a buddies golf trip two weeks ago, it cost the local law enforcement agencies a cool $150 K extra and we know towns are strapped. Maybe O slips them some of the money we would have spent on WH tours?
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Old 03-08-2013, 05:52 PM   #48
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I have no idea about the dog handler- and as usual y'all rush to pooh pooh it- then we will find out somewhere down the road that there is some semblance of truth to it- it matters little- the point is that your prez does not practice what he preaches and y'all as usual will continue to give him a pass
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Does he use his money or public money?
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The internet has too many people thinking they know who and how OUR (US) issues can be fixed or solved. Too much finger pointing going on these days and not enough from both sides trying to get something done. There is not ONE person or party that has the answers and until some people can swallow their pride and honestly try to work towards a common goal, we will be stuck in this mess for a long time. Like little kids, people sit for hours just to dig up negatives on leaders they do not approve of just because they would like to say "I told you so". It has got to the point that if tomorrow our deficit and our economy were to be the best it has ever been, people would be arguing on who to give the credit to, instead of rejoicing. There is not one person out there that knows what is best for this country as a whole. So as soon as we put our pride away and realize that it will take all party's working together and giving it an HONEST %100 to try and work together, we are screwed. Anybody age 8 on up, can find something bad or negative on Bush, Reagon, Clinton, Obama, me, you, etc all day long. What good does that accomplish? What does that fix? What does that teach the younger generation?
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Since ...... has never earned a living in the private sector he ONlY knows how to use our money
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Since ...... has never earned a living in the private sector he ONlY knows how to use our money
So i guess that means perpetuating lies on top of untruths on top of fake conspiracies is okay then. Got it.
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Old 03-08-2013, 06:15 PM   #53
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Isn't that how ...... Does it?
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Isn't that how ...... Does it?

Yes, that is how the right wing does it. Thanks for making my point, but don't be afraid to put right wing in place of your dot dot dots.
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Since ...... has never earned a living in the private sector he ONlY knows how to use our money
He didn't work at law firm?
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Yes, that is how the right wing does it. Thanks for making my point, but don't be afraid to put right wing in place of your dot dot dots.
I am not allowed to say what the dots stand for jdr- but I can assure you I was talking about your prez
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I am not allowed to say what the dots stand for jdr- but I can assure you I was talking about your prez
Really? You do realize I knew that already, right? (I hope)
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Obama’s dog has $100,000 handler

That is ridiculous, Barack has no respect for our tax dollars. Michelle can be taken care of for a lot less.
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I agree with you here......I disagree with the drama that's being drummed up. Cutting WH tours is a mere inconvenience, it does not inflict pain or discomfort which cuts to programs and services to the elderly, poor and sick would have done.
It's not obama's Whitehouse. He's acting like a petulant child -- nothing more. A 2% slowdown in the increase in spending in the federal budget is good for us all.
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So elected officials should not recieve money for their work?

Or should they only be able to spend it in a way we like?

Answer the question, his money or money meant for government use?
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