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Old 03-08-2013, 11:28 AM   #41
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The death penalty is morally justifiable, yet its administration by the state is not. Paradoxical
That statement is a paradox, but I've started to lean toward agreeing with it anyway. Which is sort of ironic since a desire for consistency of thought vis-a-vis the abortion issue is what's making me lean that way.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:30 AM   #42
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That statement is a paradox, but I've started to lean toward agreeing with it anyway. Which is sort of ironic since a desire for consistency of thought vis-a-vis the abortion issue is what's making me lean that way.
That is interesting, especially as it mirrors the Catholic position.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:39 AM   #43
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That is interesting, especially as it mirrors the Catholic position.
Guilty as charged.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:11 PM   #44
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This would never come to pass because it would be deemed cruel and unusual punishment...but I'd have no objection to an Escape from New York type setup where convicted first-degree murderers are imprisoned for life in a facility where the only guards are outside the walls, keeping them in. Each prisoner can line up at a window for his daily ration of food but other than that it's every man for himself in there. Separate facilities for female murderers so they don't procreate.
I have the same concern as I do for CP - what if the person isn't really guilty?

Otherwise, great idea.
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No, the family of the crime victim are also the victims of the criminal, but his family is the victim of the state if it chooses to execute him. It is not automatic that the state murders him for whatever crime he commits. I think you are confused.
Your wrong. You commit murder - then the state might kill you as punishment. Depends on the type of murder you commit. Your family suffers, not because of the state, but because of YOUR actions. Personal responsibility Row6. Find a pub and ask them about it.

As usual, it is you that is confused. The poor poor murderers family suffers.

Excuse me while I shed a tear for them, the murderers family....... LMAO
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