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wulimaster · 03-07-2013, 12:41 PM

Better call off the season.

GatorLaw · 03-07-2013, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GATORAZ

Humiliating and dominating are to totally different things. I am willing to bet if you asked any coach in the country that is building a program which way they would rather lose they would choose the Louisville game over the Bama or LSU game. The Bama and LSU games were where we just got beat up and shows that your whole program needs changes made.

The lost to Louisville was jut that just a loss. In the big scheme of things it was no big deal. People tried to make it out to be a big deal saying Louisville recruiting was going to explode and Florida's recruiting was going to suck. As you can see they were wrong. It was a nice win for Louisville that is it.

OK, we'll just have to agree to disagree. You can keep on calling it a nice win for Louisville and I'll keep on calling it a humiliating defeat in which Florida was dominated by Louisville.

GATORAZ · 03-07-2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by slayerxing

The louisville loss was a humiliating set back for the gator program. Uf had a chance at a top 5, maybe #2 finish heading into 2013 on a high note, and instead the staff (and some players) laid a giant egg.

The decision making in the game was ridiculously bad. The adjustments at half MAY have been enough had UF not gifted louisville a free td to start the third.

Just one of the worst coached games ive ever seen.

Louisville didnt dominate florida, charlie strong just dominated will muschamp.

Hopefully we learn and get better from it.

how did it set back the program?

slayerxing · 03-07-2013, 01:29 PM

Florida had put together a strong season with big wins declaring that they're back and then summarily throws that out the window by getting massacred by a clearly inferior opponent.

That sounds like a set back. Anytime you have a chance to win a bowl game and finish in the top 5 and blow it its a set back. Not the end of the world but still humiliating.

Hopefully it serves as good medicine similar to alabama in 2008.

GATORAZ · 03-07-2013, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by slayerxing

Florida had put together a strong season with big wins declaring that they're back and then summarily throws that out the window by getting massacred by a clearly inferior opponent.

That sounds like a set back. Anytime you have a chance to win a bowl game and finish in the top 5 and blow it its a set back. Not the end of the world but still humiliating.

Hopefully it serves as good medicine similar to alabama in 2008.

How does that loss change anything? Recruitng is going well coaching staff and kids are working hard. The end of the year poll means little unless you are first. The team didn't feel humiliated just some fans that were mad about the loss. It didnt setback anything.

Gatorphenom · 03-07-2013, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GATORAZ

It didnt setback anything.

Well apparently it set UF back in the court of public opinion which, correct me if I'm wrong, was the whole point of this thread.

socraticsilence · 03-07-2013, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GATORAZ

How does that loss change anything? Recruitng is going well coaching staff and kids are working hard. The end of the year poll means little unless you are first. The team didn't feel humiliated just some fans that were mad about the loss. It didnt setback anything.

It only really hurts if you think we can contend this yearl, if you do-- this was a set back as the pollsters are going to view us with skepticism which given our style of play we may not be able to disprove unless we run the table.

GATORAZ · 03-07-2013, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by socraticsilence

It only really hurts if you think we can contend this yearl, if you do-- this was a set back as the pollsters are going to view us with skepticism which given our style of play we may not be able to disprove unless we run the table.

socraticsilence I know you are not a fan of the style we play right now but if we win it wont matter. The formula is pretty simple win the SEC and you get to go to the NC game.

socraticsilence · 03-07-2013, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GATORAZ

socraticsilence I know you are not a fan of the style we play right now but if we win it wont matter. The formula is pretty simple win the SEC and you get to go to the NC game.

Oh, I agree with that totally I was more talking about how hard it was to build up respect among pollsters last season despite some impressve wins and how eager they all were to regard us as a fraud after the UL loss- which I think is directly attributable to playing it so close to the vest against bad teams- something I feel also hurt us for this year by stunting Driskel's development.

GATORAZ · 03-07-2013, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by socraticsilence

Oh, I agree with that totally I was more talking about how hard it was to build up respect among pollsters last season despite some impressve wins and how eager they all were to regard us as a fraud after the UL loss- which I think is directly attributable to playing it so close to the vest against bad teams- something I feel also hurt us for this year by stunting Driskel's development.

Dont get the Driskel part. The close games with mediocre teams just showed we arent a dominate team yet especially on offense. The great thing about being in the SEC and having our schedule is we dont need really need the pollsters respect. If we take care of business we will earn our spot. Ironically a team like Louisville cant say that.

slayerxing · 03-07-2013, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GATORAZ

How does that loss change anything? Recruitng is going well coaching staff and kids are working hard. The end of the year poll means little unless you are first. The team didn't feel humiliated just some fans that were mad about the loss. It didnt setback anything.

If wins and losses are meaningless then why play the games?

It matters. Even if i bought that it doesnt hurt the team to lose a game like that it certainly doesn't help. Especially in the court of public opinion if we end up being another 1 loss team in the championship discussion.

Also i cant imagine it helps when you get that out-coached on national tv.

Anyways, like i said, not the end of the world.

Let's see if uf can build on last years success.

GATORAZ · 03-07-2013, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by slayerxing

If wins and losses are meaningless then why play the games?

It matters. Even if i bought that it doesnt hurt the team to lose a game like that it certainly doesn't help. Especially in the court of public opinion if we end up being another 1 loss team in the championship discussion.

Also i cant imagine it helps when you get that out-coached on national tv.

Anyways, like i said, not the end of the world.

Let's see if uf can build on last years success.

You didn't answer the question.

slayerxing · 03-07-2013, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GATORAZ

You didn't answer the question.

Pretty sure you quoted my answer, counsel.

You can't assume the game had no effect when we've already lost and will never know how it could've been had we won.

But like i said, not the end of the world. Learn, grow, move on, and conquer next year.

**regurgigator** · 03-07-2013, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by socraticsilence

See this is where we disagree-- teams with mediocre offenses don't win titles- unless by mediocre you mean something like a top 30 attack- people will bring up something like Florida in 2006 or Bama in 2009 but those teams had good offenses not great but very good ranking at or near the top of the SEC and well within the top 1/3 of the country- When people say you can win a title with a mediocre offense they either mean something other than mediocre or they don't realize just how bad our offense was last year- the 2006 title team for purposes of comparison scored more than 20 more TDs and gained thousands of more yards than this years squad. We weren't that close-- as soon as Louisville got to 30 the game was over as true only way we could have score that many was multiple opponent turnovers inside their own 40.

Of course in hindsight it's easy to say we didn't win a championship because our offense was so bad. But, it doesn't seem like you realize we were apparently a missed 33-yard FG by Pitt (and some other close/bad calls for Notre Dame) from playing in the championship game. Of course, you can assume Bama would have routed us, as many faint-hearted Gator fans assumed who didn't even want the chance to play in the SEC or national championship game against Bama. But, I don't assume that at all. We had already beaten (or in UGA's case lost narrowly to) teams that had shared the field with the invincible Bama and had not been annihilated as so many figured we would have been

I'm not arguing against the fact that the Louisville loss hurt our perception with much of the national media. It did. But, I know they're just as guilty of overlooking the full resume of a team that has played a very tough schedule.* That's nothing new; I've been beating that particular drum since the 70's and I'm pretty convinced that will never change.

* - Yes, the media/BCS gave us some credit for the tough schedule as was evidenced by us apparently being 3rd in line for the national championship game at the end of the season. But, the respect proved to be a bit of thin veneer when our loss to Louisville dropped us behind so many teams that had nothing approaching our resume of going 4-2 against Top 25 teams (and I think that may have ended up being 4-2 against Top 15 teams, which was quite a gauntlet).