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Old 03-06-2013, 05:13 PM   #1
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I am an author and have a scenario, based around 1948, where...out in the country a family has a precocious daughter - 10ish who is a piano player.

Unfortunately one of the white keys/noted is broken and she has to play around it somehow.

There is NO piano repairman within several hundred miles.

All I want to know is...say she is playing a piece from Bach or Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata...how she could adapt to not having that scripted note available?

Does she play a key? Is there a "chord" type formation she could play to approximate that note?

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Call me immature if you want, but I can't read a post with pianist in it on a football message board without thinking of Darnell Dockett's sexcapades with his teammates in college and my anticipation of Chris Rix's tell all book!
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She would have to play the same note an octave above or below, but even that would sound wrong, just less wrong than other notes. Never heard of a chord approximating a note, although with a more dissonant, modern piece, you could probably get away with it, but not something so classically correct sounding as Bach or Beethoven. You'd have to venture into 20th century composers to plausibly pull off something like that...and 10 year olds aren't usually known to play these kinds of pieces. Maybe something like Rhapsody in Blue, but even that is very advanced musically and technically.
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She would have to play the same note an octave above or below, but even that would sound wrong, just less wrong than other notes. Never heard of a chord approximating a note, although with a more dissonant, modern piece, you could probably get away with it, but not something so classically correct sounding as Bach or Beethoven. You'd have to venture into 20th century composers to plausibly pull off something like that...and 10 year olds aren't usually known to play these kinds of pieces. Maybe something like Rhapsody in Blue, but even that is very advanced musically and technically.
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She would have to play the same note an octave above or below, but even that would sound wrong, just less wrong than other notes. Never heard of a chord approximating a note, although with a more dissonant, modern piece, you could probably get away with it, but not something so classically correct sounding as Bach or Beethoven. You'd have to venture into 20th century composers to plausibly pull off something like that...and 10 year olds aren't usually known to play these kinds of pieces. Maybe something like Rhapsody in Blue, but even that is very advanced musically and technically.
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If she has monster hands she could play the whole tune in 2 Octaves. Tie that physical development into her sun up to sun down daily farm chores. Add in some backyard football with her cousins on the weekends. It's plausible. Can she kick field goals? I might have just saved your thread. Probably not.

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In Bach or Beethoven, the same note would appear with such frequency that it would be impossible (IMO) for any pianist to even attempt to approximate it. Any approximation would sound peculiar and would have Bach or Beethoven spinning in their graves. Any serious writing stating it was being accomplished would be ridiculed by the music world - (again IMO).
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In Bach or Beethoven, the same note would appear with such frequency that it would be impossible (IMO) for any pianist to even attempt to approximate it. Any approximation would sound peculiar and would have Bach or Beethoven spinning in their graves. Any serious writing stating it was being accomplished would be ridiculed by the music world - (again IMO).
Yep, it's probably easier to re-write the story and use a different composer.
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I am an author and have a scenario, based around 1948, where...out in the country a family has a precocious daughter - 10ish who is a piano player.

Unfortunately one of the white keys/noted is broken and she has to play around it somehow.

There is NO piano repairman within several hundred miles.

All I want to know is...say she is playing a piece from Bach or Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata...how she could adapt to not having that scripted note available?

Does she play a key? Is there a "chord" type formation she could play to approximate that note?

Thanks in advance.

I already know the ending to this story.....Yosemite Sam get's tired of Bugs Bunny playing around the key rigged to the dynamite and shoves Bugs out of the way, playing "Mary Had A Little Lamb" exactly as it should be played....and get's blown to kingdom come.
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