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GATORAZ · 03-05-2013, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Wormwood56

But they didn't throw with the same frequency as they did in the first half, and they ran considerably more in the second half. Just because they threw SOME does it not mean that they were trying to control the ball and eat the clock.

3. Louisville had the ball for nearly 19 of the 30 minutes in the second half, yet gained only 158 yards in the half. They were in control.

4. Louisville had five drives in excess of 50 yards. Florida had three, with the last one after the game was well in hand.

Face it. We finished the season poorly, but still finished in the Top Ten which was far better than most of us expected to be at the beginning of the year. It seemed like we had two gator teams, the one that beat LSU, and stomped FSU and USCe, and the one that lost to Georgia, was controlled by Louisville, and were lucky to get past Mizzou and especially that Cajun powerhouse, Louisiana-Lafayette.

Here's to hoping that Muschamp will eliminate that Jekyll-Hyde tendency and have a more consistent Florida team in 2013.

They were throwing the football in the 3rd and 4th quarter they just didn't have as much success. We changed up our game plan in the 2nd half.

The reason they had the ball so much all game was our inability to continue drives. We should have ran the football more.

The team did play up and down a lil to the competition but they won. I think we had the same to the whole year. This was a team built on defense and special teams keeping us in games and the offense not making mistakes One of the reasons we struggled in some games is because of injuries on the offensive line. When healthy we ran the ball well. The Louisville game the staff decided to start out throwing the ball which was the wrong call. They should have stuck to what got us there.

geauxgator1 · 03-05-2013, 08:10 PM

We were getting our a$$e$ handed to us in that game. They dominated start to finish, and if you say otherwise, we were watching two different games.

GATORAZ · 03-05-2013, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by geauxgator1

We were getting our a$$e$ handed to us in that game. They dominated start to finish, and if you say otherwise, we were watching two different games.

Bad game plan , big mistakes , and great plays by teddy, they were definitely in control of the game they were not "physically dominating us". That game was a lot different than say LSU and BAMA the previous year.

whitelakegator · 03-05-2013, 08:50 PM

We were out-coached and outplayed from the opening kick off. The onsides kick was one of the worst calls I have ever witnessed. It reeked of desperation and failed miserably leading to a 30-10 3rd quarter advantage. Game-set-match. UL didn't need much after that and pretty much coasted.

They dominated UF...badly I might add.

GATORAZ · 03-05-2013, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by whitelakegator

We were out-coached and outplayed from the opening kick off. The onsides kick was one of the worst calls I have ever witnessed. It reeked of desperation and failed miserably leading to a 30-10 3rd quarter advantage. Game-set-match. UL didn't need much after that and pretty much coasted.

They dominated UF...badly I might add.

It was a bad call but I didnt mind it as much after the explanation. Dont think he makes that call during the regular season. I think dominated is just the wrong word. If Louisville dominated what do you call Bama and LSU games the year prior?

geauxgator1 · 03-05-2013, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GATORAZ

It was a bad call but I didnt mind it as much after the explanation. Dont think he makes that call during the regular season. I think dominated is just the wrong word. If Louisville dominated what do you call Bama and LSU games the year prior?

Sure we got dominated by Alabama, but there are degrees of domination I guess you could say. Louisville dominated us as did Alabama only not quite as bad.

**gator1986** · 03-05-2013, 09:38 PM

Yea florida didn't lose by much...

GATORAZ · 03-05-2013, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by geauxgator1

Sure we got dominated by Alabama, but there are degrees of domination I guess you could say. Louisville dominated us as did Alabama only not quite as bad.

What Bama and LSU did was dominate. Louisville just got a nice victory over us.

Swampmaster · 03-05-2013, 09:49 PM

that blowout loss to an average lville team was totally embarrassing---as bad as zook losing to a mediocre miss state team the week he got fired and meyer getting blown out by alabama his first year at uf

geauxgator1 · 03-05-2013, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Swampmaster

that blowout loss to an average lville team was totally embarrassing---as bad as zook losing to a mediocre miss state team the week he got fired and meyer getting blown out by alabama his first year at uf

Yep, and I maintain, they flat beat our a$$e$ up.

**regurgigator** · 03-06-2013, 03:19 AM

I don't see the point in splitting hairs over how much Louisville dominated us. What Louisville did and didn't do is beside the point. It could have been any no-name team ranked between 10 and 25. The point is the Gators weren't psyched to play in a bowl game that had such a poor match-up. So, the Gator team in the Sugar Bowl was not the same team that played the rest of the season to go 11-1.

The anomaly was the Sugar Bowl, not the 12 games of the regular season; and it's a story that we've seen happen numerous times to numerous teams over the years (over the decades) when a team just misses out on "the big game" and ends up facing a team that no one really cares about playing in the bowl (including the ticket-buying fans). Again, Herbstreit described what happened perfectly right after the game: Louisville was amped up to play and we weren't.

The game plan probably didn't help either, but I just don't think our team was ready to play. We all hate to see it happen, but it happens to the best of programs and coaches.

whitelakegator · 03-06-2013, 04:59 PM

Yes, we have rationalized this loss to death. Nothing more to see here.

socraticsilence · 03-06-2013, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by regurgigator

I don't see the point in splitting hairs over how much Louisville dominated us. What Louisville did and didn't do is beside the point. It could have been any no-name team ranked between 10 and 25. The point is the Gators weren't psyched to play in a bowl game that had such a poor match-up. So, the Gator team in the Sugar Bowl was not the same team that played the rest of the season to go 11-1.

The anomaly was the Sugar Bowl, not the 12 games of the regular season; and it's a story that we've seen happen numerous times to numerous teams over the years (over the decades) when a team just misses out on "the big game" and ends up facing a team that no one really cares about playing in the bowl (including the ticket-buying fans). Again, Herbstreit described what happened perfectly right after the game: Louisville was amped up to play and we weren't.

The game plan probably didn't help either, but I just don't think our team was ready to play. We all hate to see it happen, but it happens to the best of programs and coaches.

I disagree, the way you write it makes us seem like we had a dominant regular season, when in fact we basically played everyone close including bad teams- put it this way most national title contending teams don't need a blocked punt as time expires to beat directional Louisiana schools- we were a fringe Top 10 team that lost to another Top 10 team, to pretend otherwise is delusional- did we have some good wins- yeah we beat a good FSU team, blew out USCe and beat a young TAMU in Manziel's first game as well as beating a disappointing LSU team in the end we we're probably about as good as our final ranking around 10th in the nation.

**regurgigator** · 03-06-2013, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by socraticsilence

I disagree, the way you write it makes us seem like we had a dominant regular season, when in fact we basically played everyone close including bad teams- put it this way most national title contending teams don't need a blocked punt as time expires to beat directional Louisiana schools- we were a fringe Top 10 team that lost to another Top 10 team, to pretend otherwise is delusional- did we have some good wins- yeah we beat a good FSU team, blew out USCe and beat a young TAMU in Manziel's first game as well as beating a disappointing LSU team in the end we we're probably about as good as our final ranking around 10th in the nation.

Yes, we see it exactly opposite. I focus on what we did against good teams. When I evaluate a team, what they do against the weak teams is almost beside the point as long as you "took care of business", i.e., won the game (and don't have to rely on the other team missing an easy play to avoid the loss - like ND did).

Yeah it's great to blow out bad teams. But, there have been championship teams many times before that had mediocre offenses and excellent/opportunistic defenses and special teams, and made a habit of doing just enough to win. We didn't quite make the championship level games due to a tie-breaker, but we were pretty damn good.

Based on your comment about our "escape" against the directional school, I think you'd probably be very surprised at how many national championship teams had close escapes against very weak teams. Believe me, that list would not be very short.

GatorLaw · 03-06-2013, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GATORAZ

What Bama and LSU did was dominate. Louisville just got a nice victory over us.

I consider Louisville a much worse defeat than Bama and LSU. Neither of those two results came as major surprises, both were clearly better teams than we were. But Louisville? A Big East team? A team that lost to Syracuse and UConn, a team that beat USF by 2 points and went into OT to beat Cincy by 3? That team not just winning but winning convincingly over an 11-1 SEC team? Sorry but that's much more than a nice victory, it's a humiliating defeat.

socraticsilence · 03-06-2013, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by regurgigator

Yes, we see it exactly opposite. I focus on what we did against good teams. When I evaluate a team, what they do against the weak teams is almost beside the point as long as you "took care of business", i.e., won the game (and don't have to rely on the other team missing an easy play to avoid the loss - like ND did).

Yeah it's great to blow out bad teams. But, there have been championship teams many times before that had mediocre offenses and excellent/opportunistic defenses and special teams, and made a habit of doing just enough to win. We didn't quite make the championship level games due to a tie-breaker, but we were pretty damn good.

Based on your comment about our "escape" against the directional school, I think you'd probably be very surprised at how many national championship teams had close escapes against very weak teams. Believe me, that list would not be very short.

See this is where we disagree-- teams with mediocre offenses don't win titles- unless by mediocre you mean something like a top 30 attack- people will bring up something like Florida in 2006 or Bama in 2009 but those teams had good offenses not great but very good ranking at or near the top of the SEC and well within the top 1/3 of the country- When people say you can win a title with a mediocre offense they either mean something other than mediocre or they don't realize just how bad our offense was last year- the 2006 title team for purposes of comparison scored more than 20 more TDs and gained thousands of more yards than this years squad. We weren't that close-- as soon as Louisville got to 30 the game was over as true only way we could have score that many was multiple opponent turnovers inside their own 40.

GATORAZ · 03-06-2013, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorLaw

I consider Louisville a much worse defeat than Bama and LSU. Neither of those two results came as major surprises, both were clearly better teams than we were. But Louisville? A Big East team? A team that lost to Syracuse and UConn, a team that beat USF by 2 points and went into OT to beat Cincy by 3? That team not just winning but winning convincingly over an 11-1 SEC team? Sorry but that's much more than a nice victory, it's a humiliating defeat.

Humiliating and dominating are to totally different things. I am willing to bet if you asked any coach in the country that is building a program which way they would rather lose they would choose the Louisville game over the Bama or LSU game. The Bama and LSU games were where we just got beat up and shows that your whole program needs changes made.

The lost to Louisville was jut that just a loss. In the big scheme of things it was no big deal. People tried to make it out to be a big deal saying Louisville recruiting was going to explode and Florida's recruiting was going to suck. As you can see they were wrong. It was a nice win for Louisville that is it.

gator07 · 03-06-2013, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GATORAZ

Humiliating and dominating are to totally different things. I am willing to bet if you asked any coach in the country that is building a program which way they would rather lose they would choose the Louisville game over the Bama or LSU game. The Bama and LSU games were where we just got beat up and shows that your whole program needs changes made.

The lost to Louisville was jut that just a loss. In the big scheme of things it was no big deal. People tried to make it out to be a big deal saying Louisville recruiting was going to explode and Florida's recruiting was going to suck. As you can see they were wrong. It was a nice win for Louisville that is it.

LoL ok. Thanks for setting us straight.

whitelakegator · 03-07-2013, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by GATORAZ

Humiliating and dominating are to totally different things. I am willing to bet if you asked any coach in the country that is building a program which way they would rather lose they would choose the Louisville game over the Bama or LSU game. The Bama and LSU games were where we just got beat up and shows that your whole program needs changes made.

The lost to Louisville was jut that just a loss. In the big scheme of things it was no big deal. People tried to make it out to be a big deal saying Louisville recruiting was going to explode and Florida's recruiting was going to suck. As you can see they were wrong. It was a nice win for Louisville that is it.

No it put Coach Strong on the map. Louisville is now a top ten preseason pick in some of those wacky polls. It was MORE than a "nice" win for UL.

slayerxing · 03-07-2013, 12:22 PM

The louisville loss was a humiliating set back for the gator program. Uf had a chance at a top 5, maybe #2 finish heading into 2013 on a high note, and instead the staff (and some players) laid a giant egg.

The decision making in the game was ridiculously bad. The adjustments at half MAY have been enough had UF not gifted louisville a free td to start the third.

Just one of the worst coached games ive ever seen.

Louisville didnt dominate florida, charlie strong just dominated will muschamp.

Hopefully we learn and get better from it.