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rserina · 03-03-2013, 02:25 PM

I think Mizzou is in, especially given the absence of Bowers earlier in the year. That will receive some consideration, even if it isn't necessarily supposed to.

Kentucky likely has to beat us, which is annoying. That would be a huge win for them.

GatorsGators · 03-03-2013, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tommyuf21

UK gets an advantage because of their schedule strength. They would really help their cause if they win out and get at least one victory in the SEC tourney.

Tennessee has a better SOS than Kentucky.

UF67ee · 03-03-2013, 03:01 PM

Tennessee will be in, and I hate playing them again. Add UK, Mizzu,us and that's it.

tommyuf21 · 03-04-2013, 04:18 PM

I'm think UF and Missouri are it, unless someone else wins the SEC tourney.

Too many chances for the bubble teams to lose more games. Missouri is going to knock the Vols out over the weekend. If Bama loses to Arky, they're done. Missouri could very well do in Ole Miss tomorrow night too.

UK has to win its last two and then win a game in the SEC tourney. I think they have the best chance of the bubble bunch.

REM08 · 03-04-2013, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tommyuf21

I'm think UF and Missouri are it, unless someone else wins the SEC tourney.

Too many chances for the bubble teams to lose more games. Missouri is going to knock the Vols out over the weekend. If Bama loses to Arky, they're done. Missouri could very well do in Ole Miss tomorrow night too.

UK has to win its last two and then win a game in the SEC tourney. I think they have the best chance of the bubble bunch.

I think what you have to keep in mind is that, lately at least, the bubble teams have all been shooting themselves in the foot.

I'm not ultra optimistic for Kentucky, but I am confident they're in with a win over Georgia (not confident about this though), a lost to Florida, and then a win in the SEC tourney.

I don't think Kentucky's hopes ride on a Florida win, although that would get them in.

InstiGATOR1 · 03-04-2013, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tommyuf21

I'm think UF and Missouri are it, unless someone else wins the SEC tourney.

Too many chances for the bubble teams to lose more games. Missouri is going to knock the Vols out over the weekend. If Bama loses to Arky, they're done. Missouri could very well do in Ole Miss tomorrow night too.

UK has to win its last two and then win a game in the SEC tourney. I think they have the best chance of the bubble bunch.

I think UF and UMo are in. I still think three other teams have a shot and btw you have some of the schedules mixed up:

1. UK needs to beat UGa in Athens and UF and I doubt they do.

2. UMs may have the best shot as they could beat UAL at home and then if they beat LSU on the road they have canceled out the loss at Miss St.

3. UTn also has a better shot than UK. They need to win at AU midweek and then beat UMo at home. I don't see why you would think that UMo will beat anyone decent on the road?

REM08 · 03-04-2013, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by InstiGATOR1

I think UF and UMo are in. I still think three other teams have a shot and btw you have some of the schedules mixed up:

1. UK needs to beat UGa in Athens and UF and I doubt they do.

2. UMs may have the best shot as they could beat UAL at home and then if they beat LSU on the road they have canceled out the loss at Miss St.

3. UTn also has a better shot than UK. They need to win at AU midweek and then beat UMo at home. I don't see why you would think that UMo will beat anyone decent on the road?

Again, points 2 and 3 cannot be correct because they're based on a flawed point number 1. UK can get in without beating Florida. Most bracket guys have stated this and most have UK in right now. A win at UGA, which isn't a given, will give UK enough breathing room that a loss to a top 10 team won't drop them out so far that one win in the tournament won't have them back in. I'm not saying its an easy path for UK, but disagree completely with anyone saying UK needs to beat Florida. As of now, they don't.

jagervol01 · 03-04-2013, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tommyuf21

I'm think UF and Missouri are it, unless someone else wins the SEC tourney.

Too many chances for the bubble teams to lose more games. Missouri is going to knock the Vols out over the weekend. If Bama loses to Arky, they're done. Missouri could very well do in Ole Miss tomorrow night too.

UK has to win its last two and then win a game in the SEC tourney. I think they have the best chance of the bubble bunch.

Tennessee will beat Missouri at home on Senior Day with this much at stake and it will not be close. They should win at Auburn as well. They should be one of the last 4 in.

**luciaboy** · 03-04-2013, 06:43 PM

four, just as many as the all-powerful acc

**RealGatorFan** · 03-04-2013, 07:45 PM

Even with a full healthy team we lost all of the important road matchups this year. Every one of them. Even Alabama lead in the 2nd half at home. I don't understand how anyone could give us the likelyhood of a win at Rupp when we've shown we haven't won on the road yet against decent competition.

If Kentucky beats Georgia, Rupp will be packed since you know they need that win more than we do.

tommyuf21 · 03-04-2013, 10:39 PM

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Tennessee will beat Missouri at home on Senior Day with this much at stake and it will not be close. They should win at Auburn as well. They should be one of the last 4 in.

I think Missouri matches up with Tennessee much better than UF did (at less than full strength). Pressey will create a lot of problems and Bowers is much more active and a better offensive threat down low than Young was.

I think Tennessee blew their chance at the tourney when they lost to the Poodles. Auburn is terrible, so I think they can win that one. Missouri beats them in Knoxville and I'm not convinced they get a win in the SEC tourney.

I was more impressed with last year's UT team with Maymon and Stokes, than this year's team which is really a one man show (McRae).

jagervol01 · 03-05-2013, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tommyuf21

I think Missouri matches up with Tennessee much better than UF did (at less than full strength). Pressey will create a lot of problems and Bowers is much more active and a better offensive threat down low than Young was.

I think Tennessee blew their chance at the tourney when they lost to the Poodles. Auburn is terrible, so I think they can win that one. Missouri beats them in Knoxville and I'm not convinced they get a win in the SEC tourney.

I was more impressed with last year's UT team with Maymon and Stokes, than this year's team which is really a one man show (McRae).

We will see what happens this weekend but I don't see how you can accurately evaluate matchups between teams that have literally never played. Mizzou has not been impressive away from home and Tenn will have more at stake. As for the SEC tourney, I would at least wait for the draw to become clear before making picks.

tommyuf21 · 03-05-2013, 03:32 PM

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We will see what happens this weekend but I don't see how you can accurately evaluate matchups between teams that have literally never played. Mizzou has not been impressive away from home and Tenn will have more at stake. As for the SEC tourney, I would at least wait for the draw to become clear before making picks.

I see your point and certainly don't want to argue too much.

I'm just not sold on this UT team as a NCAA tourney team. I think losing at UGA really drove that point home to me. I watched them a lot early in the year and think they have a lot of problems, especially when it comes to finding consistent production from anyone other than McRae. Golden, Hall, McBee and even Stokes are unreliable and are capable of having terrible and unproductive games.

They caught us at our most vulnerable point and even with everything going for them, barely held on.

Really to be fair though, they are better than some of the other teams competing for bids, but I really think that outside of UK (reputation) and UF and Missouri, noone else in the SEC is getting in. And UK is on very shaky ground. I'm predicting two bids for the SEC and there is going to be much wailing and gnashing of teeth when it happens from everyone on this board. However, not much can be said when the SEC is as bad as it is this season.

tommyuf21 · 03-05-2013, 09:32 PM

Arky has played themselves out of it now. It looks like Bama is going to do themselves in tonight too.

I really would like to see at least 4 teams from the league get bids, as long as it is not at our expense. I just don't see it happening.

tegator80 · 03-05-2013, 09:37 PM

Middle of the first half, Bama is getting beat pretty badly against Old Miss. If this continues I don't see them making it unless they win the tourney.

tommyuf21 · 03-05-2013, 10:20 PM

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Middle of the first half, Bama is getting beat pretty badly against Old Miss. If this continues I don't see them making it unless they win the tourney.

Agreed. At this point, the only team in the league that looks like it can win three games in a row is us.

VolsFan07 · 03-05-2013, 11:30 PM

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Agreed. At this point, the only team in the league that looks like it can win three games in a row is us.

The loss to UGA ended a six game SEC win strike that included wins against UK and UF. I think the Vols can have a chance to go on another run if we can get Trae Golden playing like he did during that streak. Stokes needs to play more consistently as well.

tommyuf21 · 03-05-2013, 11:48 PM

What is the issue with Golden? I know he has had a couple of big games, but every time I've seen him, he's played pretty bad. I've seen him play at least 3X when he's turned the ball over at least 5 times. At least two games, I don't think he even hit one field goal.

The Poodles held him to 1-10. I just don't know how a junior who has logged a lot of minutes can be so inconsistent. It seems like his defender just has to sit on his right hand and wait for the turnover or missed shot.

I can see Pressey having his way with Golden on Saturday.

VolsFan07 · 03-06-2013, 11:36 AM

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What is the issue with Golden? I know he has had a couple of big games, but every time I've seen him, he's played pretty bad. I've seen him play at least 3X when he's turned the ball over at least 5 times. At least two games, I don't think he even hit one field goal.

The Poodles held him to 1-10. I just don't know how a junior who has logged a lot of minutes can be so inconsistent. It seems like his defender just has to sit on his right hand and wait for the turnover or missed shot.

I can see Pressey having his way with Golden on Saturday.

The only thing I could guess is his mental preparation. And you are absolutely right. Some games he is outstanding, and others it almost appears he's playing for the other team. He was terrible against the Dawgs, had 4 fouls with more than 12 minutes remaining. I remember two of them were just completely unnecessary hand check fouls around half court.

gtr2x · 03-06-2013, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tommyuf21

The Poodles held him to 1-10. I just don't know how a junior who has logged a lot of minutes can be so inconsistent. It seems like his defender just has to sit on his right hand and wait for the turnover or missed shot.

I can see Pressey having his way with Golden on Saturday.

Pressey is a better talent, but he hasnt been all that much different. Makes a jaw dropping pass one minute, turns it over the next.