Homeland adds 2,700 armored vehicles to ammo purchases

[DSRrg]

Originally Posted by Row6

Warren Buffet can't buy drones or nuclear weapons either - not even a machine gun. money isn't the issue.

He can most definitely buy a machine gun. Drones, he afford a squadron of them, however nuclear weapons are not on the table. That argument has no legs. The bottom line is about ammo and rifles. The MRAPs are just another asset to be used.

[Lawdog88]

Originally Posted by rivergator

so now equipping our military is an indication of something nefarious?

Just posed a rhetorical question, not sponsored a pissing contest, so you can look elsewhere for that.

You know, like wondering out loud, are IED's the wave of the future in all theaters of our possible invasion, such that the military would need to be prepared for ? Insurgent kinds of actions ?

If I were simply trying to get a sense of what and where the military perceives as the warfighting battlefields - not exclusively, of course - will be in the future, seems like the ME gets a strong nod, just based on our experience there, and with all of the available munitions laying around for insurgents to use.

So, make something nefarious out of that.

[HudsonGator]

Originally Posted by Lawdog88

Just posed a rhetorical question, not sponsored a pissing contest, so you can look elsewhere for that.

You know, like wondering out loud, are IED's the wave of the future in all theaters of our possible invasion, such that the military would need to be prepared for ? Insurgent kinds of actions ?

If I were simply trying to get a sense of what and where the military perceives as the warfighting battlefields - not exclusively, of course - will be in the future, seems like the ME gets a strong nod, just based on our experience there, and with all of the available munitions laying around for insurgents to use.

So, make something nefarious out of that.

The lunatics who advocate for allowing women into the combat arms think that all future wars are going to be like Afghanistan and Iraq.

I disagree, as history suggests that there is no reliable predictor of future conflicts.

Today it may be a low intensity insurgency, tomorrow we may be defending Japan from a Chinese invasion.

"Only the dead have seen the end of war."

"Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum."

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by HudsonGator

The lunatics who advocate for allowing women into the combat arms think that all future wars are going to be like Afghanistan and Iraq.

I disagree, as history suggests that there is no reliable predictor of future conflicts.

Today it may be a low intensity insurgency, tomorrow we may be defending Japan from a Chinese invasion.

"Only the dead have seen the end of war."

Every once in a while you make sense

[HudsonGator]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

Every once in a while you make sense

Yes, sort of a blind squirrel/broken clock sort of thing.

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by HudsonGator

Yes, sort of a blind squirrel/broken clock sort of thing.

Well there you go, you lost me on your very next post

[Wormwood56]

Originally Posted by rivergator

The full quote:



And, of course, Factcheck makes it clear:



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You are going to quote a left-wing public policy organization as your rebuttal?

[HudsonGator]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

Well there you go, you lost me on your very next post

Two common expressions:

"Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn sometimes."

"Even a broken clock is right twice a day."

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by HudsonGator

Two common expressions:

"Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn sometimes."

"Even a broken clock is right twice a day."

Thanks for clearing that up, but is there proof a blind squirrel can find an acorn?

[rivergator]

Originally Posted by Wormwood56

You are going to quote a left-wing public policy organization as your rebuttal?

i guess the fact that Factcheck actually checks facts makes it left-wing

[Lawdog88]

Originally Posted by HudsonGator

The lunatics who advocate for allowing women into the combat arms think that all future wars are going to be like Afghanistan and Iraq.

I disagree, as history suggests that there is no reliable predictor of future conflicts.

Today it may be a low intensity insurgency, tomorrow we may be defending Japan from a Chinese invasion.

"Only the dead have seen the end of war."

And just today, for instance, Pooh Bear, Ilk Yung-un today said that he was not going to abide by the 1953 Korean armistice any longer.

SEOUL, South Korea -- North Korea vowed Tuesday to cancel the 1953 cease-fire that ended the Korean War, citing a U.S.-led push for punishing U.N. sanctions over its recent nuclear test and ongoing U.S.-South Korean joint military drills. Without elaborating, the Korean People's Army Supreme Command warned of "surgical strikes" meant to unify the divided Korean Peninsula and of an indigenous, "precision nuclear striking tool." The statement came amid reports that Washington and North Korean ally Beijing have approved a draft of a U.N. Security Council resolution calling for sanctions in response to North Korea's Feb. 12 nuclear test. The draft is expected to be circulated at the U.N. this week.

Heated military rhetoric is common from North Korea when tensions rise on the Korean Peninsula and during U.S.-South Korean war games, but this latest statement is unusually specific. It threatens to block a communications line between North Korea and the United States at the border village separating the two Koreas, and to nullify the 60-year-old Korean War armistice agreement on March 11, when two weeks of U.S.-South Korean military drills will draw 10,000 South Korean and 3,500 U.S. forces. An earlier round of drills between the allies began earlier this month.

Pyongyang's recent nuclear test and rocket launches, and the subsequent call for U.N. punishment, have increased already high animosity between the North and Washington and Seoul. The United States and others worry that North Korea's third nuclear test takes it a big step closer toward its goal of having nuclear-armed missiles that can reach America, and condemn its nuclear and missile efforts as threats to regional security and a drain on the resources that could go to North Korea's largely destitute people. North Korea says its nuclear program is a response to U.S. hostility that dates back to the 1950-53 Korean War, which ended with an armistice, not a peace treaty, leaving the Korean Peninsula still technically in a state of war.

The North's statement called U.S.-South Korean military drills a "dangerous nuclear war targeted at us." "We aim to launch surgical strikes at any time and any target without being bounded by the armistice accord and advance our long-cherished wish for national unification," the statement said. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2810157.html

Sorry for the hijack/deflection.

[MastaG8r]

Larry Liberal: Hey Carl...why do you need to own an assault rifle? Huh, Carl? Why do you need it? Don't tell me why you want it, Carl, tell me why you need it. If you can't give me a satisfactory explanation for why you need that assault rifle then you shouldn't be allowed to have it, Carl.

Carl Conservative: Well...it's my Constitutional right to have one, Larry, and I can spend my own money however I want. But since you mention it, how come 0bama is spending our money - that's your money and mine, Larry - on millions of rounds of ammo and weaponry and vehicles for the Dept. of Homeland Security? Why do they need so much of it? Huh, Larry? Following your logic, if 0bama can't give us a satisfactory explanation for why he needs all that stuff then he shouldn't be allowed to have it, right?

Larry Liberal: You're some kind of crazy kook, Carl! How dare you demand that 0bama explain how he spends our money! OBVIOUSLY everything he does is for a good reason. He doesn't have to answer to you for his actions! Now tell me again Carl, why do you need an assault rifle? Why Carl, why!?!

[rivergator]

Originally Posted by MastaG8r

Larry Liberal: Hey Carl...why do you need to own an assault rifle? Huh, Carl? Why do you need it? Don't tell me why you want it, Carl, tell me why you need it. If you can't give me a satisfactory explanation for why you need that assault rifle then you shouldn't be allowed to have it, Carl.

Carl Conservative: Well...it's my Constitutional right to have one, Larry, and I can spend my own money however I want. But since you mention it, how come 0bama is spending our money - that's your money and mine, Larry - on millions of rounds of ammo and weaponry and vehicles for the Dept. of Homeland Security? Why do they need so much of it? Huh, Larry? Following your logic, if 0bama can't give us a satisfactory explanation for why he needs all that stuff then he shouldn't be allowed to have it, right?

Larry Liberal: You're some kind of crazy kook, Carl! How dare you demand that 0bama explain how he spends our money! OBVIOUSLY everything he does is for a good reason. He doesn't have to answer to you for his actions! Now tell me again Carl, why do you need an assault rifle? Why Carl, why!?!

One more time: Those vehicles are for the Marines. Rightwingers just started the rumor that they were for DHS.

[HudsonGator]

Originally Posted by MastaG8r

Larry Liberal: Hey Carl...why do you need to own an assault rifle? Huh, Carl? Why do you need it? Don't tell me why you want it, Carl, tell me why you need it. If you can't give me a satisfactory explanation for why you need that assault rifle then you shouldn't be allowed to have it, Carl.

Carl Conservative: Well...it's my Constitutional right to have one, Larry, and I can spend my own money however I want. But since you mention it, how come 0bama is spending our money - that's your money and mine, Larry - on millions of rounds of ammo and weaponry and vehicles for the Dept. of Homeland Security? Why do they need so much of it? Huh, Larry? Following your logic, if 0bama can't give us a satisfactory explanation for why he needs all that stuff then he shouldn't be allowed to have it, right?

Larry Liberal: You're some kind of crazy kook, Carl! How dare you demand that 0bama explain how he spends our money! OBVIOUSLY everything he does is for a good reason. He doesn't have to answer to you for his actions! Now tell me again Carl, why do you need an assault rifle? Why Carl, why!?!

[HALLGATOR]

Originally Posted by rivergator

By the way, the original claim that the 2,700 armored vehicles were headed for the DHS: False. They're for the Marines.

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Going by this it appears the thread was started using wrong information.