Can we now put something to rest?

[CSpantheGatorFan]

Right. There is no such thing as dishonest officiating. UF has never fallen victim to dishonest officiating. The 2012 SEC Tournament game vs UK was well officiated and even for both teams. Anyone who complains about officiating is just a sore loser.

If the big claim here is that fouls don't tell the whole story of how a game is officiated, that is truly brilliant. Realizing that not every call shows up in the foul column is certainly not something I ever would have thought of.

[RealGatorFan]

I've watched my share of Florida games and an equal amount of other games. I find that we don't get as much home cooking as other teams. We get some but not much and most of the time it's as if we are playing on a neutral court with the only advantage with our fans.

[themistocles]

Originally Posted by REM08

So how about we make a deal and just come to an agreement that FT and foul discrepancy don't always tell the whole story. Pardon my smartass tone, but this has always been something that's gotten on my nerves and is something I see propagated, not just on this site, but on everyone that has ever existed.

Yes!!!

So, why let it bother you?

It is a reflection of human nature, and, in fact, sometimes it does occur, and sometimes, followers are correct in complaining about it.

[wci347]

If those calls and the free throws had been reversed, we would have all been blaming the refs. That being said, had we not shot 2-13 from the 3 point line which is almost unheard of, the discrepancy wouldn't have been an issue.

[GatorRade]

Originally Posted by RealGatorFan

I've watched my share of Florida games and an equal amount of other games. I find that we don't get as much home cooking as other teams. We get some but not much and most of the time it's as if we are playing on a neutral court with the only advantage with our fans.

I have no idea how to objectively estimate the amount of home cooking bestowed upon different teams, but I have a strong feeling that most fans feel like they don't get as much home cooking as other teams.

[tpa_gators200]

Originally Posted by RealGatorFan

I've watched my share of Florida games and an equal amount of other games. I find that we don't get as much home cooking as other teams. We get some but not much and most of the time it's as if we are playing on a neutral court with the only advantage with our fans.

I think it generally has to do with the atmosphere on a teams homecourt. Like it or not the ODome just isn't the same as Budd Walton, Rupp, or Thompson Bolling. We got our fair share of calls yesterday, just as Arkansas, Tennessee, and Missouri did and Kentucky will. That's one of the main reasons why homecourt matters so much in college basketball(around 10 points or so). We've just gotta accept it and deal with it.

[regurgigator]

Just watched the last 10 minutes of the game again, and I'm still wondering where some of you thought we got the benefit of some questionable calls.

I noticed a hip check Young gave a Bama player that was driving baseline that wasn't called, but Bama didn't lose the ball. We got the 2 charge calls in a row, but it seemed like we had pretty good position on both. We got a couple of fouls called against us where it looked like our player just kept established defensive position (one was on Young, I think the other was Prather).

I still contend we just played a very clean game. What specific calls are you guys thinking of that amounted to some home cooking?

[whitelakegator]

Murphy went over the back on a rebound late. Somehow they called a foul on them. Looked pretty questionable to me.

[SmootyGator]

We definitely got some home cooking help on Saturday. If anyone doesn't see that, they need glasses. Don't get me wrong, there weren't many blatant calls or non-calls that were just flat out wrong, but the refs weren't calling it the same both ways. This is why it makes it hard to complain. No one can really argue that any of the fouls called against us weren't actual fouls. Likewise, some of the no-calls against us weren't really fouls that were missed. They were all in the range of "acceptability", depending on how the officiating is going. The problem with Saturday's officiating (and so many other games) is that they don't call it the same on both sides. We were doing some of the same things to them that they were doing to us, but only they were getting called for it. How you correct this?, I don't know...

The biggest problem I have is just flat-out wrong calls... like the travel against Patric Young vs. Mizzou at the end of the game. The ref farthest away makes the call, and he clearly didn't travel. Reffing is always subjective, and it always will be... but when the refs miss an objective call, especially at the end of a close game, it really sucks. Oh well, I guess everyone just needs to Overcome Adversity on the Court!!!

[grant1]

Missed the game and forgot to record it, but listening to the last 4-6 minutes, Hubert doing play by play and annouces Prather got fouled, I CAN"T BELIEVE THEY DIDN"T CALL THAT.

[orlandogator]

What is odd, since the two are not really related is to be hot at the free throw line and get alot of calls that way and go cold at the 3 point line on the same night.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Originally Posted by CSpantheGatorFan

Right. There is no such thing as dishonest officiating. UF has never fallen victim to dishonest officiating. The 2012 SEC Tournament game vs UK was well officiated and even for both teams. Anyone who complains about officiating is just a sore loser.

There's a middle ground between "there is literally no such thing as poor officiating" and the kind of victim mentality that fans often exhibit, often to the extreme point of thinking their conference is plotting against them.

[regurgigator]

Originally Posted by whitelakegator

Murphy went over the back on a rebound late. Somehow they called a foul on them. Looked pretty questionable to me.

Didn't look over the back to me (I think Murphy grabbed for the ball just after the Bama guys were coming down with the rebound - did Murphy even jump? I erased the game from my DVR), but as Murphy grabbed the ball and took it up for the shot, it looked like it could have been a jump ball. The aggressive move to the basket by Murphy forced a call. They called us (Prather I think) for a foul on the other end that also looked like a jump ball (the unbiased announcers said it looked like a jump ball also).

Smooty Gator - There were certainly a couple of the fouls called against Young (particularly his 2nd foul in the first half) that can be argued were not actual fouls. I'm sure a couple of the calls against Bama were questionable, but most appeared to be pretty obvious fouls. And, as some have mentioned (including the unbiased announcers), they were getting away with some pretty big body blocks on a lot of their off-ball screens that could have been called.

[SmootyGator]

Originally Posted by regurgigator

Smooty Gator - There were certainly a couple of the fouls called against Young (particularly his 2nd foul in the first half) that can be argued were not actual fouls. I'm sure a couple of the calls against Bama were questionable, but most appeared to be pretty obvious fouls. And, as some have mentioned (including the unbiased announcers), they were getting away with some pretty big body blocks on a lot of their off-ball screens that could have been called.

I agree with you... I'm just saying that all of the calls were "within the range" of normal calls, meaning they could be called either way. It was just my opinion that they didn't call it the same on both sides of the floor and Bama got the short end of the stick. BUT... Bama still should have made their free throws, just like we should have at Mizzou.

[SmootyGator]

Oh... and to clarify, I'm not saying that we didn't have any bad calls go against us... just that the officiating hurt Bama more than us.