03-02-2013, 07:38 PM
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This Kelly kid is Duke's best player tonight. And it ain't even close.
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03-02-2013, 07:38 PM
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Miami has had a nice season but I don't understand the talk of them being a 1-seed.
They have 3 terrible losses (vs. Indian State, @Wake, @Florida Gulf Coast). In ESPN's BPI they're #14 and in Pomeroy ratings they're #13. Prior to tonight's result they look like a 3-seed to me.
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03-02-2013, 07:45 PM
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This kid is killing it!!
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03-02-2013, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by akaGatorhoops
This kid is killing it!!
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I have rarely disagreed with your insights on this board but did on Kelly. Curious if you are rethinking your position on how much he elevated Duke.
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03-02-2013, 07:56 PM
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Heisman Finalist
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Does having Kelly back elevate Duke to a #1 seed even if Miami wins this game? I'm sure the selection committee will take into account that Duke was undefeated before he got hurt. Would they give 2 teams from a weaker ACC #1 seeds?
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03-02-2013, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bakaduin
I have rarely disagreed with your insights on this board but did on Kelly. Curious if you are rethinking your position on how much he elevated Duke.
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I think the kid is very good. But he does not have huge impact on the issues I see for this duke team... Most of which are on the defensive side (esp. on perimeter) of the ball and on the glass.
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03-02-2013, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by gatorfansrule
Does having Kelly back elevate Duke to a #1 seed even if Miami wins this game? I'm sure the selection committee will take into account that Duke was undefeated before he got hurt. Would they give 2 teams from a weaker ACC #1 seeds?
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That begs the question... How does the committee take into consideration our injury issues, and the fact that we are finally healthy?
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03-02-2013, 08:07 PM
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Well, I have to admit that Kelly's presence forces me to re-evaluate their spot in the cbb hierarchy.
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03-02-2013, 08:08 PM
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Ugh...choking here.
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03-02-2013, 08:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by akaGatorhoops
That begs the question... How does the committee take into consideration our injury issues, and the fact that we are finally healthy?
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If Indiana and Gonzaga have locked up 1 seeds, then you only have 2 spots left to choose between Miami, Duke (with Kelly back), Florida (finally healthy), Kansas, Georgetown, Michigan State, Louisville, and Michigan.
It's been a crazy year.
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03-02-2013, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by akaGatorhoops
That begs the question... How does the committee take into consideration our injury issues, and the fact that we are finally healthy?
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The problem is that none of our injured players were stars, or even really the kinds of guys people outside the SEC have heard of.
We're fans, we follow this team religiously, so we know how important Yeguette is, and we know how good a shooter Frazier is, and we know how important Prather is to our depth, but the guys on the committee aren't Gator fans (and more's the pity).
These folks are going to say, "A guy who scores six points a game, a true freshman shooter who missed one game and a reserve swingman who scores, what, five points a game? All of these are bench players."
Most outside observers are going to look at that and shrug, because no one has enough time to truly understand the important bench players on every team.
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03-02-2013, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MadduxFanII
The problem is that none of our injured players were stars, or even really the kinds of guys people outside the SEC have heard of.
We're fans, we follow this team religiously, so we know how important Yeguette is, and we know how good a shooter Frazier is, and we know how important Prather is to our depth, but the guys on the committee aren't Gator fans (and more's the pity).
These folks are going to say, "A guy who scores six points a game, a true freshman shooter who missed one game and a reserve swingman who scores, what, five points a game? All of these are bench players."
Most outside observers are going to look at that and shrug, because no one has enough time to truly understand the important bench players on every team.
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I agree, though I recall the talking heads writing off Florida's season when it was expected that yeguete's was done.
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03-02-2013, 08:26 PM
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I think Duke is locked into a #1 seed now with a win over Miami and having Kelly back.
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03-02-2013, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by gatorfansrule
I think Duke is locked into a #1 seed now with a win over Miami and having Kelly back.
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That, and having d-u-k-e on the jersey helps.
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03-02-2013, 08:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by akaGatorhoops
That, and having d-u-k-e on the jersey helps.
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True, but I think it has more to do with who their coach is then what their name is. Coack K IS Duke though so I guess it's one and the same.
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03-02-2013, 08:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dakcman
Miami has had a nice season but I don't understand the talk of them being a 1-seed.
They have 3 terrible losses (vs. Indian State, @Wake, @Florida Gulf Coast). In ESPN's BPI they're #14 and in Pomeroy ratings they're #13. Prior to tonight's result they look like a 3-seed to me.
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I agree with everything you say, except that Indiana State is not a terrible loss. They are right around where Arkansas is (mid 70's rank)
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03-04-2013, 11:08 AM
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Duke still probably has the best resume in the country - beat Minnesota, VCU, Louisville, Ohio State, NC State, and Miami, making them 6-1 against teams that currently have a BPI > 80. Easily deserving of a #1 seed.
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03-04-2013, 11:12 AM
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Heisman Candidate
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thedyc09
Duke still probably has the best resume in the country - beat Minnesota, VCU, Louisville, Ohio State, NC State, and Miami, making them 6-1 against teams that currently have a BPI > 80. Easily deserving of a #1 seed.
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I said back in December that they had the best resume and that it wouldn't be surpassed. I agree about them deserving a 1 seed unless they lose @ UNC and then early in the ACC Tourney.
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03-04-2013, 11:20 AM
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New #1 seeds perhaps?
Indiana
Duke
Georgetown
Michigan
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03-04-2013, 11:55 AM
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Heisman Winner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaggator
New #1 seeds perhaps?
Indiana
Duke
Georgetown
Michigan
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I think Georgetown loses early in the Big East tourney (favorites always go down early there). I like Indiana, Duke, Gonzaga, and Michigan (who I think wins the Big 10 tourney).
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamliner
I'm surprised they haven't burned you at the stake by now. I have only managed to survive by holing up in an undisclosed location which, fortunately, has a wireless internet connection.
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