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Old 02-26-2013, 11:56 AM   #61
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All I can tell you is that the owner of the company said that it is not uncommon for them to call and offer a job only to be told that the applicant wasn't ready to work yet but they had to keep applying to keep ue benefits current. Many are collecting ue benefits and then working side jobs for cash so that they can work when they want and not work when they don't want to. Something tells me that nothing short of original video of people making these statements will be enough to convince you of that though. Denial can be a powerful and useful tool when you want to convince yourself of something though.
I don't disagree with what you are saying with respect to what you heard. I also totally believe he gets a lot of people who are not interested in a job but instead need their papers filled out. In addition I stated that doesn't seem to be bad entry-level pay although I don't live in the area. My problem has been the immediate assumption that the whole issue can be placed at the feet of government benefits. To me this is a simplified approach to a problem that, more than likely, has multiple causes. Since I have hired many people in my life it's not like I'm blind to what you run into with perspective employees.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:04 PM   #62
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A California company offered me a job at $8 an hour to start. $12 (with all the freebies) sounds pretty damned good compared to that.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:06 PM   #63
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A California company offered me a job at $8 an hour to start. $12 (with all the freebies) sounds pretty damned good compared to that.

Everybody knows that California unemployment (can't find a job, welfare) benefits are much better than that. Tell 'em no thanks and go get your dole.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:08 PM   #64
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Everybody knows that California unemployment (can't find a job, welfare) benefits are much better than that. Tell 'em no thanks and go get your dole.
In retrospect, I probably should have swaggered in with, "Alright, where's mine, DAMMIT ?!"
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:12 PM   #65
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So we know for a fact everyone who applied for the job asked for their papers to be signed? Or the ones who didn't work out were all because they wanted to fall back on government benefits. I don't think you can make that determination with any accuracy based on a conversation over a meal.
Good grief. I never said EVERYONE who applied was on the dole. Read my post.

Just that it is a significant factor. Reasonable?
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Old 02-26-2013, 04:35 PM   #66
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I'm usually opposed to the mindset that UE are keeping people from working, but I find this thread pretty compelling. If the economy is recovering it seems like it should be getting harder and harder to continue UE benefits right now.

That said, someone might be plenty able-bodied but if they have kids to watch then $30k/yr isn't going to cover daycare and etc.
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