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02-25-2013, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NoahBeanBizzel
I don't agree. We were just fine without Jenkins for the better part of last season, and Bostic was nothing special. He was good, but we've had better middle linebackers. He was never a great pass rusher, and he just lacked the big plays we've gotten from other guys at the position.
I think Floyd, Elam and Hunter are bigger losses than Bostic.
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I disagree with you. Jenkins played in the big games and is really good in coverage. Bostic played great last year. We might have had better LB's in the past but we dont have anybody that was going to play on that level next year. He is a MLB why would you worry about his pass rushing ability? I thought he made a lot of plays last year I think CWM would agree he said he didnt think there was a better MLB in the country at the end of the year.
The problem is we are so young at the LB position losing Bostic and Jenkins is a lot of experience and talent. You are talking about two guys that will probably be starting in the NFL next year.
Floyd was a monster but Florida should have the best Dline in the SEC next year.
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02-25-2013, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by GATORAZ
I disagree with you. Jenkins played in the big games and is really good in coverage. Bostic played great last year. We might have had better LB's in the past but we dont have anybody that was going to play on that level next year. He is a MLB why would you worry about his pass rushing ability? I thought he made a lot of plays last year I think CWM would agree he said he didnt think there was a better MLB in the country at the end of the year.
The problem is we are so young at the LB position losing Bostic and Jenkins is a lot of experience and talent. You are talking about two guys that will probably be starting in the NFL next year.
Floyd was a monster but Florida should have the best Dline in the SEC next year.
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Bostic made one play where he ran down some WR from behind, and now all of a sudden he's not only more than a late-round pick, but he was playing better than guys like Manti T'eo (save the Alabama game) and Kevin Minter at the end of last season? Really? I don't care what Muschamp said, Bostic got bullied at times throughout his career. He also got erased way too often by some of the more physical teams we played against.
Btw, Spikes, Crowder and Siler all did a good job of rushing the QB. You can be a MLB and get after the QB. Bostic was a good player. He might be a good pro. But I'm not worried about the MLB position.
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02-25-2013, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by GATORAZ
why do you hope he fails?
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Cause he's a liar and I don't like him... Why do you hope he succeeds?
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02-25-2013, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by NoahBeanBizzel
Bostic made one play where he ran down some WR from behind, and now all of a sudden he's not only more than a late-round pick, but he was playing better than guys like Manti T'eo (save the Alabama game) and Kevin Minter at the end of last season? Really? I don't care what Muschamp said, Bostic got bullied at times throughout his career. He also got erased way too often by some of the more physical teams we played against.
Btw, Spikes, Crowder and Siler all did a good job of rushing the QB. You can be a MLB and get after the QB. Bostic was a good player. He might be a good pro. But I'm not worried about the MLB position.
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Your opinion for next year is basically that everyone we lost was okay but we're better off.
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02-25-2013, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by gatordee
I agree. He was exposed by Bama and will be exposed in the NFL. He would be average at best in the SEC.
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Thank you!
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02-25-2013, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by NoahBeanBizzel
Come on, man. That's horrible.
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What I'm not going to sit here and wish everyone luck in the NFL. Everyone's dislikes someone that plays in each sport. Te'O is my new for the NFL, other than Mark Sanchez, or Rex Ryan
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02-25-2013, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by NoahBeanBizzel
Bostic made one play where he ran down some WR from behind, and now all of a sudden he's not only more than a late-round pick, but he was playing better than guys like Manti T'eo (save the Alabama game) and Kevin Minter at the end of last season? Really? I don't care what Muschamp said, Bostic got bullied at times throughout his career. He also got erased way too often by some of the more physical teams we played against.
Btw, Spikes, Crowder and Siler all did a good job of rushing the QB. You can be a MLB and get after the QB. Bostic was a good player. He might be a good pro. But I'm not worried about the MLB position.
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I would not draft Manti in the first 2 rounds. Kid was really good to great at ND but would have been average to good in the SEC. Bostic and Manti might be about the same right now. Bostic had experience against bigger, better players throughout his career.
I also didn't see anyone say Bostic is better than Minter. That's just crazy talk lol
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02-25-2013, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by NoahBeanBizzel
Bostic made one play where he ran down some WR from behind, and now all of a sudden he's not only more than a late-round pick, but he was playing better than guys like Manti T'eo (save the Alabama game) and Kevin Minter at the end of last season? Really? I don't care what Muschamp said, Bostic got bullied at times throughout his career. He also got erased way too often by some of the more physical teams we played against.
Btw, Spikes, Crowder and Siler all did a good job of rushing the QB. You can be a MLB and get after the QB. Bostic was a good player. He might be a good pro. But I'm not worried about the MLB position.
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I agree NBB. Very few times did we see Jenkins or Bostic shed a blocker and step into the hole to nail a RB. Both were decent in coverage, but VERY average as run stoppers. No where near the class of some of the good LB'ers we've had. But hey, that's JMO and I wish both of them nothing but the best. I hope they both have outstanding NFL careers.
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02-25-2013, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by gator1986
Cause he's a liar and I don't like him... Why do you hope he succeeds?
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so do you hope everyone in the NFL fails ? They all Lie. I don't wish failure on people.
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02-25-2013, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NoahBeanBizzel
Bostic made one play where he ran down some WR from behind, and now all of a sudden he's not only more than a late-round pick, but he was playing better than guys like Manti T'eo (save the Alabama game) and Kevin Minter at the end of last season? Really? I don't care what Muschamp said, Bostic got bullied at times throughout his career. He also got erased way too often by some of the more physical teams we played against.
Btw, Spikes, Crowder and Siler all did a good job of rushing the QB. You can be a MLB and get after the QB. Bostic was a good player. He might be a good pro. But I'm not worried about the MLB position.
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I am telling you what CWM said at the end of the year. I think Minter was better than Bostic but CWM said he didnt think any MLB in the country was playing better. CWM is not really one for hyperbole.
Bostic got bullied at the beginning of his career. That did not happen last year. Bostic and Jenkins were really good in coverage and hitting hard last year. Those two will be missed you cant really believe the likes of Morrison Taylor Ball and the freshmen are going to play better than Jenkins and Bostic next year.
You might not be worried but I am. You also think that Kelvin Taylor is going to lead the SEC in rushing next year
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02-25-2013, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by NoahBeanBizzel
Bostic made one play where he ran down some WR from behind, and now all of a sudden he's not only more than a late-round pick, but he was playing better than guys like Manti T'eo (save the Alabama game) and Kevin Minter at the end of last season? Really? I don't care what Muschamp said, Bostic got bullied at times throughout his career. He also got erased way too often by some of the more physical teams we played against.
Btw, Spikes, Crowder and Siler all did a good job of rushing the QB. You can be a MLB and get after the QB. Bostic was a good player. He might be a good pro. But I'm not worried about the MLB position.
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Have to agree with you....Bostic was maybe a slightly above average SEC LB. Jelani was fast and his biggest asset was he could cover the RBs or athletic tightends.
I think Adam Morrison is gonna be the next great Gator LB. He was out of position a few times last year. But with a year under his belt he is destined to be great.
I could easily see Mike Taylor or one of the other guys playing as good as Bostic has played.
Bostic has played average throughout his career...with just a slightly above average SR year.
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02-25-2013, 08:44 PM
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Have to agree with you....Bostic was maybe a slightly above average SEC LB. Jelani was fast and his biggest asset was he could cover the RBs or athletic tightends.
I think Adam Morrison is gonna be the next great Gator LB. He was out of position a few times last year. But with a year under his belt he is destined to be great.
I could easily see Mike Taylor or one of the other guys playing as good as Bostic has played.
Bostic has played average throughout his career...with just a slightly above average SR year.
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Mike Taylor you cant be serious
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02-25-2013, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by GATORAZ
I am telling you what CWM said at the end of the year. I think Minter was better than Bostic but CWM said he didnt think any MLB in the country was playing better. CWM is not really one for hyperbole.
Bostic got bullied at the beginning of his career. That did not happen last year. Bostic and Jenkins were really good in coverage and hitting hard last year. Those two will be missed you cant really believe the likes of Morrison Taylor Ball and the freshmen are going to play better than Jenkins and Bostic next year.
You might not be worried but I am. You also think that Kelvin Taylor is going to lead the SEC in rushing next year
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That Freshman Morrison was showing those seniors Jenkins and Bostic how a LB should lay a lick last year.
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02-25-2013, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by sleeze
That Freshman Morrison was showing those seniors Jenkins and Bostic how a LB should lay a lick last year.
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I am a huge fan of Morrison. I was talking about him before he ever stepped foot on campus. I said he would be one of the stars of the recruiting class. That being said he is not the athlete the other two are and he still needs to learn the defense. I expect him to but he was out of position a lot last year. Morrison also needs to gain weight. Its not that I don't like the players we have it is just people are really under estimating how good Jenkins and Bostic played last year. Their play was night and day from the previous season when it came to being physical. All the other things like playing in space they were always really good at
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02-25-2013, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GATORAZ
Mike Taylor you cant be serious
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why not
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02-25-2013, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GATORAZ
I am telling you what CWM said at the end of the year. I think Minter was better than Bostic but CWM said he didnt think any MLB in the country was playing better. CWM is not really one for hyperbole.
Bostic got bullied at the beginning of his career. That did not happen last year. Bostic and Jenkins were really good in coverage and hitting hard last year. Those two will be missed you cant really believe the likes of Morrison Taylor Ball and the freshmen are going to play better than Jenkins and Bostic next year.
You might not be worried but I am. You also think that Kelvin Taylor is going to lead the SEC in rushing next year
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You thought that I was serious when I said that? Or when I was making the comments about the Jessies and Joes? Or when I said Purifoy was going to be All-SEC as a receiver?
Well good. I'll play around like that everytime we discuss how we'll be at a position in the middle of February, just to prove a point.
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02-25-2013, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sleeze
why not
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he is terrible in coverage and in space in general.
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02-25-2013, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by GATORAZ
I am a huge fan of Morrison. I was talking about him before he ever stepped foot on campus. I said he would be one of the stars of the recruiting class. That being said he is not the athlete the other two are and he still needs to learn the defense. I expect him to but he was out of position a lot last year. Morrison also needs to gain weight. Its not that I don't like the players we have it is just people are really under estimating how good Jenkins and Bostic played last year. Their play was night and day from the previous season when it came to being physical. All the other things like playing in space they were always really good at
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Not the athlete? He fooled me last year. A freshman was there making a play waaay before Jenkins or Bostic was or would have been.
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02-25-2013, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by GATORAZ
I am a huge fan of Morrison. I was talking about him before he ever stepped foot on campus. I said he would be one of the stars of the recruiting class. That being said he is not the athlete the other two are and he still needs to learn the defense. I expect him to but he was out of position a lot last year. Morrison also needs to gain weight. Its not that I don't like the players we have it is just people are really under estimating how good Jenkins and Bostic played last year. Their play was night and day from the previous season when it came to being physical. All the other things like playing in space they were always really good at
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I agree. Morrison could be a star but I'm not sure he can play every down of every game in the SEC if he doesn't add weight. Which I'm sure the coaches are already on. Bostic did play very well this year, he was a key.
Its also key that we are losing a leader on D. Bostic was a team leader.
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02-25-2013, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by NoahBeanBizzel
You thought that I was serious when I said that? Or when I was making the comments about the Jessies and Joes? Or when I said Purifoy was going to be All-SEC as a receiver?
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Uhhhh ...
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