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Old 02-24-2013, 01:40 PM   #81
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Pease ran quite a few run option plays for Driskel (see end of Texas A&M, LSU and the entie Vandy game), he made bad reads some times (see FSU). I think the offense has the potential to be better...we'll have to wait and see. As for UGA, they will have to rebuild their defense.
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Pease ran quite a few run option plays for Driskel (see end of Texas A&M, LSU and the entie Vandy game), he made bad reads some times (see FSU). I think the offense has the potential to be better...we'll have to wait and see. As for UGA, they will have to rebuild their defense.
All true - this is why Driskel needs to grow some next year, which I fully expect him to do in just his second year in this offense. That with an improved receivers and O-line is what I expect to see next year.

Furthermore, I'll take our much improved Gator offense over a rebuilding UGA defense any day of the week and twice on....Saturdays.

We win this match-up next year, IMHO.
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Old 02-24-2013, 02:58 PM   #83
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What's funny is that the only reason UGA won that game last year was because UF self-destructed, and then had one of the softest of the SEC schedules the last two years too.

Wow, the first two-game win streak against us by UGA in 22 years and they're already talking the smack.
We did implode last year. I expect a very different Gator offense next year - much improved.

And their schedule is a complete joke...... Man do I despise Slive and the fact that the entire SEC is in 'bama's back yard.
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No proven QB or OL?
Rushing the Olines were about the same, and I'm not claiming UGA's line is proven - but we're not replacing half our line like the Gators are or our senior RB and our senior QB was #2 in the nation, that's proven.

39 Florida 539 for 2445 for a 4.54 avr.
43 Georgia 525 for 2556 for a 4.87 avr.

Passing?

30 Georgia 3991 yrds and 37 TDs with 285.07 ypg.
114 Florida 1902 and 13 TDs with 146.31 ypg.

Sacks - UGA #65, UF #106, only AU was worse

TFL - UGA #32, UF #85

Lots of Gators on here questioning your QB and the blocking of last year's line. Given the stats above I don't see how you think they're proven.
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What's funny is that the only reason UGA won that game last year was because UF self-destructed, and then had one of the softest of the SEC schedules the last two years too.

Wow, the first two-game win streak against us by UGA in 22 years and they're already talking the smack.
Yeah, UF never won a game during those years because UGA self-destructed. That stuff goes both ways.

I'm not talking smack, I'm talking football. Lots of good fans on here can tell the difference.
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Yeah, UF never won a game during those years because UGA self-destructed. That stuff goes both ways.

I'm not talking smack, I'm talking football. Lots of good fans on here can tell the difference.
Your point is fair, but I would hope you're objective enough to see that UF shot itself firmly in the foot in this year's game. The turnovers killed any shot we had.
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Your point is fair, but I would hope you're objective enough to see that UF shot itself firmly in the foot in this year's game. The turnovers killed any shot we had.
Indeed, but lost is UGA also turned the ball over 3 times.

Just as pertinent was UGA limiting Gillisee to 77 yards and UF to 75 yards total rushing, whilst UGA's freshman Gurley went for 118 and UGA rushed for 123. Georgia's defense won that game.
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Purify an all-SEC receiver? Most explosive offense in the league (not as if that is saying too much)? That stuff just sets you up for a letdown.

We will be improved because it is the second year for a very raw quarterback and the second year in a new offensive scheme. The offensive line will be as good in the run game or better and I suspect with some adjustments to the passing game that the pass protection will be as well. We have the horses to fill Gilislee's spot, even if we don't replace his entire productivity. The only real spot for concern is receiver, which really held us back last year. Dunbar is solid, but unspectacular. The combination of Burton, Taylor, and Thompson fill fill the Reed-Hines roles. The biggest question is whether or not we can find a playmaker or two at receiver, someone who can make something happen with the ball in his hands on a short route or get off a jam and beat his man deep or into his break. Robinson is probably the best bet. Andrades and Pittman are decent, but I don't see either as explosive. Maybe Purifoy will prove me wrong, but I suspect his greater upside is at corner, not receiver, and he finds his way back there.
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Indeed, but lost is UGA also turned the ball over 3 times.

Just as pertinent was UGA limiting Gillisee to 77 yards and UF to 75 yards total rushing, whilst UGA's freshman Gurley went for 118 and UGA rushed for 123. Georgia's defense won that game.
Murray had 3 interceptions.

Florida fumbled SIX times. 4 were lost. We also threw 2 more INTs.

That's the story right there - anything else is secondary.

The Georgia defense played well, no doubt. But we conceivably got rid of the ball 8 times had it not been for the recoveries. EIGHT.

Gillislee and the Gator offense had equally ineffective rushing games in addition to Georgia (Carolina, where we only had 89 yards on the ground). Faced with a good pass rush, our OL was left wanting. The odd thing was we executed against the Gamecocks - but unsurprisingly they kept turning the ball over and we did not...
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Proven QB is debatable- Was Brantley a proven QB in 2010- just starting doesn't exactly mean you're proven in terms of ability to play well. As for the line, don't we replace quite a few starters?
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Your point is fair, but I would hope you're objective enough to see that UF shot itself firmly in the foot in this year's game. The turnovers killed any shot we had.
The UGA game was the flipside of the FSU game- two teams played fairly evenly but one team just kept turning it over and that ended up being the difference in a close contest.
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Proven QB is debatable- Was Brantley a proven QB in 2010- just starting doesn't exactly mean you're proven in terms of ability to play well. As for the line, don't we replace quite a few starters?
Yeah we are and I believe it's called an upgrade....atleast we will see. Only time will tell how good we are. Spring is right around the corner
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Proven QB is debatable- Was Brantley a proven QB in 2010- just starting doesn't exactly mean you're proven in terms of ability to play well. As for the line, don't we replace quite a few starters?
Pretty weak comparison. First of all, Brantley was a first year starter in 2010. Second, the conditions were completely different. In his first year as a starter, Brantley was a fourth year junior in the same offensive system for the fourth season, then as a senior he was in a new offensive system under an entirely new coaching staff. Driskel, on the other hand, was a true sophomore in his second season in as many seasons last year, while next season he will have the same system and offensive coordinator. Plus, whereas Brantley headed a 8-5 team i his first year, Driskel manned a 11-2 team. A better comparison would be Leak heading into his sophomore year, not Brantley as a senior.

On the offensive line, we lose two starters who both just so happened to be our weakest in pass protection. Replacing them are a pair of kids with starting experience in senior Koehne and sophomore Humphries, or possibly an all-league ACC player in Garcia.

Receiver is a problem, but I am not concerned about quarterback or offensive line.
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True, although Leak had a new OC in year 2.
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Murray had 3 interceptions.

Florida fumbled SIX times. 4 were lost. We also threw 2 more INTs.

That's the story right there - anything else is secondary.

The Georgia defense played well, no doubt. But we conceivably got rid of the ball 8 times had it not been for the recoveries. EIGHT.

Gillislee and the Gator offense had equally ineffective rushing games in addition to Georgia (Carolina, where we only had 89 yards on the ground). Faced with a good pass rush, our OL was left wanting. The odd thing was we executed against the Gamecocks - but unsurprisingly they kept turning the ball over and we did not...
I could accept the notion that we gift-wrapped the game to Georgia if I could also accept the idea that USCe gift-wrapped the game to us, but i don't think either was the case...

As for our offense. It is clear that Muschamp is building the Gators as Saban, Beamer, Miles, and even Spurrier are building their teams. Efficient, low-risk offense with a dominant defense. Spurrier never had success at USCe until he finally swallowed his pride and played defensive football, and the records of Saban, Beamer and Miles are pretty self evident. Defense wins. I will be overjoyed if we become the efficient offensive machine Saban has installed at Alabama, and I think Muschamp and Pease will do exactly that. It will be like the mid-1980s for us older Gators all over again, without the booster cheating this time...
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Rushing the Olines were about the same, and I'm not claiming UGA's line is proven - but we're not replacing half our line like the Gators are or our senior RB and our senior QB was #2 in the nation, that's proven.

39 Florida 539 for 2445 for a 4.54 avr.
43 Georgia 525 for 2556 for a 4.87 avr.

Passing?

30 Georgia 3991 yrds and 37 TDs with 285.07 ypg.
114 Florida 1902 and 13 TDs with 146.31 ypg.

Sacks - UGA #65, UF #106, only AU was worse

TFL - UGA #32, UF #85

Lots of Gators on here questioning your QB and the blocking of last year's line. Given the stats above I don't see how you think they're proven.

Lots of fans complain. I noticed a lot of that same stuff from UGA fans after the last 20 or so UF - UGA games.

All those stats mean nothing compared to your opinion, or what I might say, wishful thinking.

New OC, new OL coach, new S&C coach, what amounted to no WR's coach for last season, a QB in Driskel who was basically playing his rookie year at QB, and an OL that was doing just fine until many of them began ringing up one injury after another starting with the LSU game. Our entire starting OL was playing injured against UGA btw, some of them with multiple injuries. They were never healthy as a unit until FSU.

I don't expect leaps and bounds next season, but I expect a lot better offensive production from the '13 Gator offense. Muschamp has recruited extremely well and our players are being developed a lot better too.

Now you just move along and tell us how great UGA will be next season, but leave talking about Gator Football to the ones who know what they're talking about.
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This is actually a great comparison. Some forget how talented and competitive those teams were. Granted, we were in the dark days of SEC offenses, but those staffs recruited as well as anyone and developed tough, physical, power offenses with enough speed to make plays. The better Pell and Hall teams get overlooked because the offenses weren't as sexy as under Spurrier and Meyer and they didn't win anything, but they were screwed out of one league title and had a pretty good argument to being the best team in the nation when BYU became the most underwhelming national champion of the scholarship era.
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The UGA game was the flipside of the FSU game- two teams played fairly evenly but one team just kept turning it over and that ended up being the difference in a close contest.
I wouldn't consider that the flipside, a lot of our turnovers in the uga game were mental errors and lack of focus. Not to discredit uga's performance on d because they were spectacular, but if you look at our turnovers in that game compared to fsus', a lot of the noles turnovers were takeaways. I wouldn't say the majority of our turnovers against Georgia were takeaways by their defense, though they played a great game.
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True, although Leak had a new OC in year 2.
Leak as a true frosh was much much better than JD was last season though.
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I wouldn't consider that the flipside, a lot of our turnovers in the uga game were mental errors and lack of focus. Not to discredit uga's performance on d because they were spectacular, but if you look at our turnovers in that game compared to fsus', a lot of the noles turnovers were takeaways. I wouldn't say the majority of our turnovers against Georgia were takeaways by their defense, though they played a great game.
I'd say the about even 2 of Manuel's picks were basically throws right to our defender with no receiver within 3 yards.
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