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iam4uf · 02-23-2013, 06:23 PM

Current RPI numbers along with the low quality of teams they'll play show that Miami could easily fall to 3rd before they play Duke. At this RPI & with two losses to sub-150 RPI teams, I don't see Miami remaining a #1 seed.
1 Duke - 0.6920
2 Miami FL - 0.6755
3 New Mexico - 0.6736
4 Florida - 0.6579

diamondted13 · 02-23-2013, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by iam4uf

Current RPI numbers along with the low quality of teams they'll play show that Miami could easily fall to 3rd before they play Duke. At this RPI & with two losses to sub-150 RPI teams, I don't see Miami remaining a #1 seed.
1 Duke - 0.6920
2 Miami FL - 0.6755
3 New Mexico - 0.6736
4 Florida - 0.6579

One loss to a sub-150 RPI team. FGCU is #108. Miami will be just fine with either a win over Duke or a deep run in ACC tourney. Maybe not a #1 seed, but probably no worse than a #2, assuming they win the ACC regular season at 16-2.

ncbullgator · 02-23-2013, 07:58 PM

I want Duke in our bracket. Not Miami.

iam4uf · 02-23-2013, 09:06 PM

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One loss to a sub-150 RPI team. FGCU is #108.

You're right, I was looking at a site that had it summarized & it showed two sub-150 RPI losses.

themistocles · 02-23-2013, 09:43 PM

Look guys, Miami just got beat by 11-14 (prior to the game, 12-14 after), Wake Forest, who is playing in the ACC.

I assume this has to do with matchups, but still, that is quite the surprise.

madgator · 02-24-2013, 02:58 PM

Miami is not that good. we beat them by double digits easily

I'm starting to take notice of New Mexico.....nice team

rserina · 02-24-2013, 03:13 PM

Miami has been struggling of late, but they are going to be a tough out regardless where they land. They can defend, they have good size in the paint, the ability to stretch the floor with Kadji, and one of the best two-way point guards in the nation. Not sure if they ever merited a top seed, though. The ACC isn't as bad as the SEC this season, but it isn't very good either. Big wins over Michigan State and Duke help their cause. Losses to Gulf Coast, Indiana State, and Wake won't, nor will the woodshedding from Zona.

A win over Duke and in the ACCs and they get a one. Anything less and they are probably a two, though the same thing holds as for us: so much depends upon what happens to the other teams.

diamondted13 · 02-24-2013, 03:57 PM

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Miami has been struggling of late, but they are going to be a tough out regardless where they land. They can defend, they have good size in the paint, the ability to stretch the floor with Kadji, and one of the best two-way point guards in the nation. Not sure if they ever merited a top seed, though. The ACC isn't as bad as the SEC this season, but it isn't very good either. Big wins over Michigan State and Duke help their cause. Losses to Gulf Coast, Indiana State, and Wake won't, nor will the woodshedding from Zona.

A win over Duke and in the ACCs and they get a one. Anything less and they are probably a two, though the same thing holds as for us: so much depends upon what happens to the other teams.

Agree with all of this. I just find the constant diminishing of Miami on this board by some posters to be a bit petty. They are legit and have had a great season, despite the lack of b-ball pedigree (which is irrelevant, really).

Attempts to down-grade the ACC to mid-major status, or to say that the ACC is just as bad as the SEC this season is just not accurate. It is far from vintage ACC, but the SEC is almost historically down this year. Miami has had, and will continue to have more resume-building opportunities (i.e. games against Duke) than UF. That's just the nature of the leagues this year (due to Mizzou's and UK's inability this year to step us as a second elite SEC team).

Now that can go one of two ways for Miami. Another win against Duke (at Cameron or ACC tourney) and Miami is a very real threat for a #1 seed. Two losses to Duke (or an early exit in ACC tourney) and they could find themselves falling to the 3-line. In the end, I think Miami ends up a #2 seed. This is assuming they lose to Duke next week but finish as regular season ACC champs at 16-2. Obviously, an early flame-out in ACC tourney is something they want to avoid, regardless.

gtr2x · 02-24-2013, 07:28 PM

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Agree with all of this. I just find the constant diminishing of Miami on this board by some posters to be a bit petty. They are legit and have had a great season, despite the lack of b-ball pedigree (which is irrelevant, really).

Attempts to down-grade the ACC to mid-major status, or to say that the ACC is just as bad as the SEC this season is just not accurate. .

Miami is a rival, so negative comments from Gator fans is quite natural, especially in response to a few posters awhile back favoring the Canes in a matchup. Hard to believe any Gator would be surprised by that, even someone who has taken on the role of being the Canes number 1 defender on this board.

Bottom line - the winner of the UM/Duke game will be a number 1 seed, the loser probably a 2 seed.

diamondted13 · 02-24-2013, 11:01 PM

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Miami is a rival, so negative comments from Gator fans is quite natural, especially in response to a few posters awhile back favoring the Canes in a matchup. Hard to believe any Gator would be surprised by that, even someone who has taken on the role of being the Canes number 1 defender on this board.

Bottom line - the winner of the UM/Duke game will be a number 1 seed, the loser probably a 2 seed.

Fair enough. I guess I don't really see Miami as a b-ball rival. I'm not surprised by the responses on this board, I just don't agree with the naysayers who feel Miami is a fluke. I guess we'll find out over the next 4 weeks, or as early as next Saturday vs. Duke.

NorthCaptivaGator · 02-24-2013, 11:07 PM

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Fair enough. I guess I don't really see Miami as a b-ball rival. I'm not surprised by the responses on this board, I just don't agree with the naysayers who feel Miami is a fluke. I guess we'll find out over the next 4 weeks, or as early as next Saturday vs. Duke.

Love seeing Miami doing well, lots of basketball talent in Florida

gtr2x · 02-25-2013, 12:29 PM

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Fair enough. I guess I don't really see Miami as a b-ball rival. I'm not surprised by the responses on this board, I just don't agree with the naysayers who feel Miami is a fluke. I guess we'll find out over the next 4 weeks, or as early as next Saturday vs. Duke.

I can assure you that Cane fans and the local media still see the Gators as rivals in every sport. I have already heard a few subtle jabs from Cane fans, "how does it feel to be ranked below the Canes", etc, etc. Of course after the Wake loss, they will all disappear for awhile, at least until the Duke game.

I do like their coach, tho, seems like a hard guy to root against. I dont think anyone here is saying they are a "fluke", just saying they are not a #1 seed and not better than UF. Flukes dont lead the ACC this late, even in a down year.