Florida State loses assistant Billy Napier to Alabama

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The Golden Clowns are concerned, to put it mildly, at the mass exodus of football assistants and the low payouts they get from the ACC. Sows were in the red big-time last fall til the ACC suddenly "found" some "extra" payout money for each school.~$2 mil each, if I remember correctly. This was when Jumbo & Andy Haggard(booster pres.) were trying to go to Big 12 or SEC last fall without running it by President Barron or A.D. Randy Spetman!!
Clown boosters mad cause nobody on the same page, low ACC payout, program bleeding money, low season ticket sales and Spetman replacing WVU w Savannah State.
Spetman's contract was up last Aug. and they only renewed it for ONE yr. til Feb. 2014 at $350k per YEAR!
Clown College being clowns, as usual, but approaching shambles...

[Lawdog88]

So I suppose the 2013 recruits he was working the phones with, and up in their houses with, are just fine with this sudden turn of events.

Hey, where'd he go ? He was just here a minute ago ?

[gator85jd]

Originally Posted by Lawdog88

So I suppose the 2013 recruits he was working the phones with, and up in their houses with, are just fine with this sudden turn of events.

Hey, where'd he go ? He was just here a minute ago ?

Probably not as surprised as the Texas Tech recruits who were eating their steaks waiting for Tuberville to come back from the men's room.

[born2beagator]

Burn baby!!! BUUUUUURRRRNNN!!!!

Loving all the rats jumping ship

[urbangirl]

Originally Posted by gator85jd

Foley has been quoted as saying the spiraling salaries are what the market bears. But it does seem like the higher the salaries get, the less loyalty there is -- on both sides -- from the coaches and from the schools. Increasingly, the schools demand immediate success and on the other side of the equation, the coach sees no reason to remain at a school if there's an opportunity elsewhere.

I think the word you are looking for is mercenary.

[gator85jd]

Originally Posted by urbangirl

I think the word you are looking for is mercenary.

Mercenary? Maybe, but the schools and fans share blame on this. Don't get me wrong . . . I (like just about everyone else on here) want UF competing for and bringing home championships. I think Noah's post has some traction, though.

Originally Posted by NoahBeanBizzel

But nobody really cares about "loyalty" anymore. The same people on this board who boldly proclaim that they're behind Muschamp, will be the same ones who will be screaming for his head if he fails to win nine games next year. Let's be real: You don't care about Muschamp. I don't really care about the guy. The majority of the Gator Nation doesn't really care about him either. They care about what he can do to win at the highest level at Florida. All the other nonsense (graduating players, getting "high-character" players, and being a disciplinarian) that people parrot around ain't worth a foodstamp if he doesn't get this team to Atlanta on a yearly basis.

Les Miles posts double-digit wins every year in Baton Rouge. A lot of fans want him out of there. For all the good that Richt has done at UGA, his career is defined more by what he hasn't done. All the people giving Saban a pat on the back, will be the first ones who question the direction of the program if he "only" wins ten games. What loyalty did a national championship earn Chizik? Two years? Go ask Randy Shannon what loyalty was given to him for graduating players, keeping them out of trouble, and doing all the other things that make for a great piece of journalism, but don't really matter. It got his a** canned, and he's at Arkansas now.

Loyalty is something the "baby boom" generation likes to complain about when they're passed up by some snot-nosed punk in his early 30s, who's willing to sell his soul, neglect his family, and be exploited by whatever organization that's bringing him onboard for the next five years, for a high-end position. The only thing that matters today, are the numbers. And in football, in this conference, it's all about championships. Not wins; championships.

Another thing: two to three years is a pretty fair amount of time given to any individual in a high-end position to oversee production. At most companies, you get a few months to come in, get your feet wet, learn the ropes, and then it's all about the numbers. That's the world we live in. People who want to talk about "how it used to be" get tossed aside and overlooked by the ones who couldn't care less what it was like.

[GatorLaw]

Originally Posted by The_Graygator

I'm actually sort of surprised Napier jumped like this after getting on board in Tally for just a few weeks, but I honestly thought at least two of these new coaches would leave after one season. Napier's sudden change of heart is telling.

There is some 'smoke' at FSU. The story is that there is a lot of dissention within the program at FSU, and it all starts with Fisher, and it goes all the way up through the chain of command to the AD and boosters. This is really nothing new of course, considering there has been some upheaval there since Bobby left and money concerns have been apparent.

But money isn't just what stole Napier from the nolies, it was also the general state of upheaval within the program there. he got to Tally and found out he didn't like it there.

This large exodus of coaches after the 2012 season has the boosters really concerned. Apparently, once Napier had gotten to know the system at FSU some, he didn't feel welcome anymore and pounced at the first opportunity, and Bama, of course, is a far better job than FSU.

A lot of the boosters there, as unrealistic as it was to think so, thought they were supposed to have won the NC one of the lst two years, especially in 2011, and that's only made it worse in clown town.

Interesting, thanks for the information.

It seems to me that Fisher and the FSU football program are in a position where the only thing that will make most of their boosters and fans happy is a national championship. They know what the ACC is like and they're not going to get excited about winning the ACC championship. They expect to win the ACC, it's assumed as a matter of course considering that FSU plays the softest of schedules and is head and shoulders above every other team in the conference except Clemson.

So what's left to get excited about if not their conference championship? Only NCs. So Fisher is almost doomed to failure in the eyes of many boosters and fans because he realistically isn't going to produce NCs very often if ever and anything less - even 10-2 or 11-1 seasons coupled with ACC championships - isn't viewed as success, especially if one of the losses is to us.

[The_Graygator]

Spot on LAW.

The things is, Fisher was all they could really afford after Bobby. He's not a "bad" coach per-say, but they knew they couldn;t go "big league" after replacing Bobby.

That said, I said a long, long time ago that when FSU gave Bobby that life-long contract that FSU could not afford to do it and it would end up biting them in the financial butt within a decade down the road.

Well, here you go. Their atheletic budget was in the red the year before last and they needed a bail-out from the ACC just to get by last year.

Well paid assistants usually stick around for a while before leaving for better career opportunities. I when Stoops was hired as DC he wouldn;t be there more than 3 years too, and I am still on record saying that Pruitt is another Jon Hoke experiment that's going to blow up in Fisher's face.

Money is their major problem, and Fisher wants better pay for better assistants and then to keep them there, but FSU and the boosters just don;t have it.

[Go2gtr]

Originally Posted by The_Graygator

Spot on LAW.

The things is, Fisher was all they could really afford after Bobby. He's not a "bad" coach per-say, but they knew they couldn;t go "big league" after replacing Bobby.

That said, I said a long, long time ago that when FSU gave Bobby that life-long contract that FSU could not afford to do it and it would end up biting them in the financial butt within a decade down the road.

Well, here you go. Their atheletic budget was in the red the year before last and they needed a bail-out from the ACC just to get by last year.

Well paid assistants usually stick around for a while before leaving for better career opportunities. I when Stoops was hired as DC he wouldn;t be there more than 3 years too, and I am still on record saying that Pruitt is another Jon Hoke experiment that's going to blow up in Fisher's face.

Money is their major problem, and Fisher wants better pay for better assistants and then to keep them there, but FSU and the boosters just don;t have it.

Maybe they can find some political maneuver to raid the state's PECO funds.