Whoops! (James Hansen on today's GW)

[Burke]

"The GWPF has been right all along. In a new report Hansen, Sato and Ruedy (2013) acknowledge the existence of a standstill in global temperature lasting a decade. This is a welcome contribution to the study of global temperature. When others reached the same conclusion they have been ridiculed; so this admission should provide some pause for reflection by those who have attacked the very idea of a recent temperature standstill, often without understanding the data, focusing on who was making the argument and their alleged non-scientific motives. The bottom line is that the recent global temperature standstill is a real event. David Whitehouse, The Global Warming Policy Foundation, 17 January 2013"

http://us4.campaign-archive1.com/?u=...c&e=f4e33fdd1e

Also, from Prof Richard Linzen:
" Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement
that the early 21st century's developed world went into
hysterical panic over a globally averaged temperature
increase of a few tenths of a degree, and, on the basis of
gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer
projections combined into implausible chains of
inference, proceeded to contemplate a roll-back of the
industrial age."

Actually, I don't think they will be wondering, no more than today's scientists wonder about Nazi eugenics testing.

[oragator1]

David Whitehouse wrote an article at the Global Warming Policy Foundation claiming that climate scientist James Hansen's recent report admits that a "Global temperature standstill is real," and that this was evidence that "The GWPF has been right all along." Hansen's actual report can be viewed here (PDF). Whitehouse goes on to criticize the remaining sections of Hansen's report which reports on how climate variations will continue to "cause a substantial increase in the frequency of extreme warm anomalies." [26]

Much of Hansen's report also contradicts Whitehouse's assertion that the GWPF was "right all along" if he is referring to the group's essential stance on climate change. For example, note these paragraphs in Hansen's original document (emphasis added): [27]

"These short-term global fluctuations are associated principally with natural oscillations of tropical Pacific sea surface temperatures summarized in the Nino index in the lower part of the figure. 2012 is nominally the 9th warmest year, but it is indistinguishable in rank with several other years, as shown by the error estimate for comparing nearby years. Note that the 10 warmest years in the record all occurred since 1998.

"The long-term warming trend, including continual warming since the mid-1970s, has been conclusively associated with the predominant global climate forcing, human-made greenhouse gases, which began to grow substantially early in the 20th century. The approximate stand-still of global temperature during 1940-1975 is generally attributed to an approximate balance of aerosol cooling and greenhouse gas warming during a period of rapid growth of fossil fuel use with little control on particulate air pollution..."

http://www.desmogblog.com/david-whitehouse

[rivergator]

Note that the 10 warmest years in the record all occurred since 1998.

[Burke]

We've been warming for 300 years because we were coming out of the Little Ice Age, much longer than they have been keeping records and long before any appreciable manmade CO2.

According to the AGW theorists, as I recall, the CO2 level wasn't significant until about 1955.

So the manmade CO2 "record" didn't mean anything until 1955. It warmed from then until 1998 and has essentially leveled off. And it didn't really warm all that much then.

And this plateau was NOT predicted by Hansen and his pals.

Who were claiming Armageddon, the seas rising, and doom, doom, doom.

All this "hottest on record" stuff is rhetorical BS.

Put it another way: You can go back to most of the years for hundreds of years and say that it was "the hottest on record."

And it had absolutely nothing to do with AGW.

[viningsgator]

Originally Posted by Burke

We've been warming for 300 years because we were coming out of the Little Ice Age, much longer than they have been keeping records and long before any appreciable manmade CO2.

According to the AGW theorists, as I recall, the CO2 level wasn't significant until about 1955.

So the manmade CO2 "record" didn't mean anything until 1955. It warmed from then until 1998 and has essentially leveled off. And it didn't really warm all that much then.

And this plateau was NOT predicted by Hansen and his pals.

Who were claiming Armageddon, the seas rising, and doom, doom, doom.

All this "hottest on record" stuff is rhetorical BS.

Put it another way: You can go back to most of the years for hundreds of years and say that it was "the hottest on record."

And it had absolutely nothing to do with AGW.

Keep fighting the fight Burke. Good stuff.

[geauxgator1]

There is only one reason our friend AL the Gore and his ilk are propagating that false theory, and that is to have another reason to expand gubernmnent and propose more hurtful legislation and regulation, extract more tax $$'s for a straw dog, and line the pockets of people in that system. It's the same play for every other crises that doesn't exist. Al has made out pretty well selling that snake oil.

[QGator2414]

Originally Posted by Burke

We've been warming for 300 years because we were coming out of the Little Ice Age, much longer than they have been keeping records and long before any appreciable manmade CO2.

According to the AGW theorists, as I recall, the CO2 level wasn't significant until about 1955.

So the manmade CO2 "record" didn't mean anything until 1955. It warmed from then until 1998 and has essentially leveled off. And it didn't really warm all that much then.

And this plateau was NOT predicted by Hansen and his pals.

Who were claiming Armageddon, the seas rising, and doom, doom, doom.

All this "hottest on record" stuff is rhetorical BS.

Put it another way: You can go back to most of the years for hundreds of years and say that it was "the hottest on record."

And it had absolutely nothing to do with AGW.

+1

I would rep you if I could...

[MichaelJoeWilliamson]

Originally Posted by rivergator

Note that the 10 warmest years in the record all occurred since 1998.

What caused the climate to warm up in medieval times?

[Burke]

Natural variation, same as today,

[vangator1]

What caused the climate to warm up in medieval times?

horse farts

[Minister_of_Information]

Originally Posted by rivergator

Note that the 10 warmest years in the record all occurred since 1998.

This does not contradict a plateau in overall heating.