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02-16-2013, 12:18 AM
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sows lose half a mil on the ACC Championship game
Florida State took the trophy home from the 2012 ACC Championship Game in December.
It also brought back debt.
According to the school's income statement from the game, obtained by Warchant.com via public records request, Florida State lost more than $478,000 from its participation in the ACC Championship in Charlotte, N.C., on Dec. 1.
About $440,000 of FSU's loss stems from dismal ticket sales for its matchup against 6-6 Georgia Tech. The league announced that 64,778 tickets were distributed, but Bank of America Stadium never reached half-capacity during FSU's 21-15 win. It was the first time in the game's three years in Charlotte that it wasn't labeled a sellout.
Each season, the conference gives each division winner 10,000 tickets to sell at four different price points ranging from $40 to $150. According to FSU's ticket reconciliation form, Florida State sold just 2,033 tickets, totaling $185,210 in revenue.
All told, the face value of the 10,000 allotted tickets was $774,190. After FSU's $185,210 in revenue on the 2,033 tickets sold, $3,594 in various ticket fees and the ACC's assistance on the final 4,000 unsold tickets ($144,895), FSU was left with a $440,491 loss on tickets. The net loss for the trip was $478,954.20.
The ACC gave FSU a combined $475,343 to play in Charlotte; $144,895 in unsold ticket assistance, $170,448 in reimbursed expenses and a standard $160,000 payout given to each team according to the league's bylaws.
Florida State locked up its Atlantic Division crown with a 41-14 win over Maryland on Nov. 17 but lost handily to rival Florida at home the week prior to the ACC Championship.
Tickets to this year's championship were available for less than $5 on Stubhub.com in the days leading up to the game.
The ACC spokesperson could not confirm if other ACC schools had lost money with title game appearances at previous venues like Jacksonville or Tampa, but losses seem likely considering the poor attendance and less appealing matchups in some years.
Ya think?
Jax
Tampa
http://floridastate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1472519
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02-16-2013, 12:21 AM
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Wow. What a pathetic conference. I wonder what happens if a school refuses to play in the ACCCG. Of course, they lose there chance of playing in the Orange Bowl. Maybe not so bad after all.
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02-16-2013, 12:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGator
Wow. What a pathetic conference. I wonder what happens if a school refuses to play in the ACCCG. Of course, they lose there chance of playing in the Orange Bowl. Maybe not so bad after all.
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scUM should as a part of their punishment, be required to go to future ACC championship games.
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02-16-2013, 03:50 AM
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The only way to get even average attendance will be to move the game to the home field of the team with the best record, even then it will still be around 50% empty.
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02-16-2013, 07:28 AM
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I hope that is an accounting gimmick for the league's distribution of TV monies. If not then why have a championship game? You get the chance to lose a game so that you don't go to a BCS bowl and it costs you a half mil? I don't get it.
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02-16-2013, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by KronoGator
The only way to get even average attendance will be to move the game to the home field of the team with the best record, even then it will still be around 50% empty.
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Agreed. Most ACC fan bases do not travel well at all and many don't have even decent attendance at home.
The conferences and bowls should reevaluate their formulas as well. Bowls jack up prices and boost their guarantees split by the conferences, which dampens attendance, which costs the participating schools because they aren't getting enough to cover expenses.
I heard someone call into WRUF and suggest lowering the ticket prices to sane levels and lower the guarantee. I'd add to that deducting the unsold ticket charge from the payout before it goes to the conference to be split up.
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02-16-2013, 08:28 AM
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we shouldn't say anything after our terrible showing for the Sugar Bowl.
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02-16-2013, 08:59 AM
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The last 2 Sugar Bowls for that matter. I made it to both however.
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02-16-2013, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by gatorbait96
The last 2 Sugar Bowls for that matter. I made it to both however.
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I've been there for the last six Sugar Bowls the Gators have played in and always had a great time. The first four were very well attended by Gator fans. The recent apathy is mystifying. I look for any excuse to go to New Orleans, but now Gator fans seem to look for excuses not to.
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02-16-2013, 09:50 AM
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Der König der Grube
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorJeff
I've been there for the last six Sugar Bowls the Gators have played in and always had a great time. The first four were very well attended by Gator fans. The recent apathy is mystifying. I look for any excuse to go to New Orleans, but now Gator fans seem to look for excuses not to.
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we made fun of FSU fans and their excuses for not going to games and only a few short years later we are the same group making excuses on why not to go to home games, I.E. its too hot, its a night game, its an fcs school, kentucky sucks, and my favorite the team sucks
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- Will Muschamp on Mike Gillislee
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02-16-2013, 11:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorJeff
I've been there for the last six Sugar Bowls the Gators have played in and always had a great time. The first four were very well attended by Gator fans. The recent apathy is mystifying. I look for any excuse to go to New Orleans, but now Gator fans seem to look for excuses not to.
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A little bit of N'awlins goes a long way, Jeff.
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02-16-2013, 02:12 PM
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Fsu sold only 2000 tickets to their title game???
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02-16-2013, 02:23 PM
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LOL - Thank you Bobby Bowden - SOW reaps what it SOWED. That ACC choice is looking sweet now.
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02-16-2013, 02:38 PM
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....lovin every minute of it.......
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02-16-2013, 06:11 PM
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That doesn't look like Raymond James. But I'm on my phone so I can't tell
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02-17-2013, 02:09 AM
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Lol, I love that pic of bc, vt. ACC,ACC,ACC.! Lol
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02-17-2013, 08:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PIMking
we shouldn't say anything after our terrible showing for the Sugar Bowl.
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Sure we can. Bowl games and Conference champ games are apples and oranges.
A Kentucky v/s Moo St SECCG would sell out in hours.
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02-18-2013, 12:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PIMking
we made fun of FSU fans and their excuses for not going to games and only a few short years later we are the same group making excuses on why not to go to home games, I.E. its too hot, its a night game, its an fcs school, kentucky sucks, and my favorite the team sucks
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Apples and oranges:
- Sugar Bowl is an exhibition game played after the regular season is complete. Bowl games outside the championship game are the NIT of college football
- A conference championship is the one thing that you can play for and win without having to have the assistance of the voters
- The face value for a post-season exhibition game vs. a regular season championship game
- Nobody's wearing a "non-national-championship bowl game" championship ring, but you bet your tail they'll be wearing a conference championship ring (at least in the SEC they will be)
Go GATORS!
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02-18-2013, 08:21 AM
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Heisman Candidate
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BobK89
That doesn't look like Raymond James. But I'm on my phone so I can't tell
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It is clearly not RJ.
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02-18-2013, 11:12 AM
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You talk about the ACCCG and then throw in a comparison to a bowl game???? Let's see how many empty seats are in ATL the next time UF plays for the SEC!!!!! A meaningless bowl game, why go??? Same with the ACCCG. Just my 2 cents.
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