Spurrier zings The Liar

[tilly]

Originally Posted by 1984Gator

So you are saying that Tebow wasn't an important contributor in 06? 08 as well?

No. I said they were not the MVP in 2006. Nothing more, nothing less. Just pointing out that Chris is often left out of such discussions.

Where did you get 2008 from?

[gator85jd]

Originally Posted by 1984Gator

So you are saying that Tebow wasn't an important contributor in 06? 08 as well?

Watch out, 1984. If you acknowledge some posters on here, they become paranoid.

Tebow's play in short yardage situations in the '06 UT game was a big part of that victory. Without that victory, we aren't in Atlanta.

[socraticsilence]

Originally Posted by phatGator

I can't believe how some Gator fans can totally slight Chris Leak, who not only led the Gators to a national championship, but also as a true freshman led the Gators to three of the greatest upsets in school history -- three ranked teams, three weeks in a row, away from home.

In 2 of Saban's 4 national title years he dropped home games to freshman QBs- one of those guys won the Heisman, the other was Chris Leak.

[tilly]

Originally Posted by gator85jd

Watch out, 1984. If you acknowledge some posters on here, they become paranoid.

Tebow's play in short yardage situations in the '06 UT game was a big part of that victory. Without that victory, we aren't in Atlanta.

Agree 100% .

like I said, I was pointing out Leak is often the forgotten commodity.

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[socraticsilence]

Originally Posted by 1984Gator

You mean that class minus the 10 high ranked recruits that crapped out as usual under Meyers system. Spurrier was right, Meyer doesn't develop players very well.

That class was the core of our team last year- that defense that everyone says was among the best we've ever had-- it was largely that class. It had transfers yes but every class does- heck look at Saban's turnover, besides when you drastically change systems players are going to look elsewhere.

[gatorsfan530]

Originally Posted by 1984Gator

Sorry but this is total BS! Sick of Meyer apologists, especially the non-gator apologists!

Also sick of people bashing a guy who brought Florida 2 National Championships

[Tipmoose]

Originally Posted by gatorsfan530

Also sick of people bashing a guy who brought Florida 2 National Championships

I don't care how many MNC's he brought us. He's a morally bankrupt individual who made millions off of UF. I'll continue to bash his lack of character until he's no longer coaching. There are things that are more important in life than football championships.

[Gatorrick22]

Originally Posted by Tipmoose

I don't care how many MNC's he brought us. He's a morally bankrupt individual who made millions off of UF. I'll continue to bash his lack of character until he's no longer coaching. There are things that are more important in life than football championships.

Unless he lied...............all... along?

[GATORAZ]

Originally Posted by 1984Gator

He still shows very little ability to read defenses but you think that Meyer could work magic with his system? You truly have forgotten that Tebow came in throwing well as a starter once Leak graduated. he did have the benefit of a season to develop as well.

I think you and I probably have a different assessment of Tebow's throwing ability

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by socraticsilence

He didn't offer Tommy Frazier at QB.

What's your point? So because he didn't recruit somebody 10-15 years previously that means he wouldn't have recruited Tebow?

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by WESGATORS

Again, I think that's a shallow assessment. Let me ask you this. Do you think that both coaches felt they had the same support from their administration?

I could be wrong, but I don't imagine that a coach would go into as much detail about political disputes when dealing with their players. Obviously there are things that would have been said in the locker room that would not have been said elsewhere, but I also think the opposite is true.

Go GATORS!
,WESGATORS

Regardless of the relationship between Spurrier and Foley, Spurrier was treated as a God so that really doesn't effect the decision IMO.

That being said, what Spurrier said in the locker room and what he actually did is why I say he quit on his team.

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by ArtDeco

I think he meant that team, on paper, was more gifted than any previous Gator team in history. So yes, they underachieved. But go hug your souvenir from that meaningless 2009Sugar Bowl if that makes you feel better.

Why don't you ask the players if it was meaningless.

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by adamgator96

The "butt-hurt" and "jilted lover" mentality is evident in the simple reference to our two-time NC winning coach as the "Liar."

Mom always said, "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all." The OP expected a 30 page thread and got one.

With the what-have-you-done-for-me-lately fans we have here, I'm shocked the thread wasn't "Egomaniac zings the Liar." Coulda pulled forty pages easy.

And you have contributed, congrats.

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by 1984Gator

This is BS. Taking a promotion is not quitting! Spurrier said almost every year that we shouldn't count on him staying long term because he might want to take a shot at coaching in the pros. In prior years he had talked to the Buccaneers and others. Spurrier was interested in devloping his career and he found out that he was a better college coach than a pro coach.

Not BS at all and nothing you stated makes it. I was there and heard what Spurrier said. He quit on his team. You don't have the knowledge to refute it.

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by JohnC1908

That you are passive aggressive whenever someone states an opinion that you don't agree with.
So now please tell us what's so great about his D.

!

[WESGATORS]

Originally Posted by Tebowism0823

Spurrier was treated as a God

Obviously not. The situations were simply *not* equal.

Go GATORS!
,WESGATORS

[Tebowism0823]

Originally Posted by WESGATORS

Obviously not. The situations were simply *not* equal.

Go GATORS!
,WESGATORS

Spurrier could've stayed. I don't see your argument.

[WESGATORS]

Originally Posted by Tebowism0823

Spurrier could've stayed. I don't see your argument.

That both coaches could have stayed is about the only similarity between the situations. I guess you could say different types of stresses were impacting each of the coaches, but those are significantly different enough to avoid attaching the same "quit" tag to each coach. If others disagree, then I think it is a matter of how broad of a scope you're willing to consider for the label of "quit" and it's just a semantics issue.

Go GATORS!
,WESGATORS

[phatGator]

Originally Posted by Tipmoose

I don't care how many MNC's he brought us. He's a morally bankrupt individual who made millions off of UF. I'll continue to bash his lack of character until he's no longer coaching. There are things that are more important in life than football championships.

Since character is so important to you, it would show better character if you would include UM's entire quote in your signature. Probably should throw in the question he was answering, just to be honest and put everything into proper context. A person of high moral character would not want to be deceitful and present only excepts that give a different impression than otherwise might be made with all the facts.

Q. Can you just talk about the sheer emotion of walking away from a school that's driven you, and then the emotion when you decided to let the door be cracked for a return?

COACH URBAN MEYER: A very emotional day, not knowing that crack is still there. I don't know that door is still there. But what I didn't want to have happen, and I made this clear to Jeremy, if I am able to go coach, I want to coach at one place, the University of Florida. It would be a travesty, it would be ridiculous to all of a sudden come back and get the feeling back, get the health back, feel good again and then all of a sudden go throw some other colors on my shirt and go coach. I don't want to do that. I have too much love for this University and these players and for what we've built.

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[RealDeal]

without tebow, meyer would have zero titles.