How the Gators are like a "topless fiance"...

[PaulTheShow]

Don't let the title of this piece and thread scare you. It's safe for work...

http://ourtwobits.com/gator-basketba...opless-fiance/

It's a valid analogy (I think). The season is going to end up great unless another ARKANSAS game happens. And how funny is Grantland.com. Awesome!

[InstiGATOR1]

Certainly an entertaining analogy, though imperfect.

[iam4uf]

Frankly, I don't care about bandwagon fans or what they think. I love this team & appreciate the fans who have always been there. A #1 seed would be great, but that's a seed for the bandwagon, I'll be happy with a #2 seed as well.

[InstiGATOR1]

I thought about this some this afternoon and the biggest flaw is that in a world of topless fiancees no one is nearly as much concerned about theirs compared to a world where only one fiancee got drunk and topless. Everyone else seemingly has a topless fiancee:

Duke 63 Miami 90 Look at that margin?
Miami 51 Florida Gulf Coast 63 I don't care who was missing you need to win that one.
Michigan 62 Wisconsin 65 Wisconsin is not bad, but UF handled them pretty easily.
Villanova 73 Louisville 64 During a 3 game losing streak

[madgator]

stupid concept......EVERY championship team has at least one bad game. Most times two.


The 1989-1990 UNLV running rebels who pretty much ran through the tournament beat Duke by 30 for the title and is generally considered one of the best college teams of the past 30 years lost to UC Santa Barbara by 8

The 1991 Duke team that won the title lost to UVA that season by 17.


The 1996 Kentucky team lost as a 16 point favorite to Miss St. losing by 11.


Losses happen. Bad losses happen. Get something else to write about and find a more clever analogy next time.

[ThePlayer]

If you're comparing the Arkansas game to boobs...I think we went flat.

We better keep working our legs next time.

[madgator]

Originally Posted by ThePlayer

If you're comparing the Arkansas game to boobs...I think we went flat.

We better keep working our legs next time.

nice!

[GatorJeff]

The 2000 Michigan State team that beat the Gators in the national championship game lost to Wright State.

[rtgator]

This thread is useless without pics!

(Any excuse to use that line . . . . . . )

[ApexNC]

Originally Posted by rtgator

This thread is useless without pics!

(Any excuse to use that line . . . . . . )

I can't believe it took so long for somebody to post that!

[Go2gtr]

Our second NC team lost six games in conference.

I don't care for these marketing threads looking to get hits for their site.

[themistocles]

The losses to teams one shouldn't lose to are, as Mad, Jeff and Go2 noted, almost by necessity going to happen in Intercollegiate Basketball.

And Go2 - Yes regarding the HITS stuff.

On a site, you can always put words like Porn, Boobs, Hot & such in invisible type and the Spiders will pic you up when people (mostly men) search for those, thus, if your site has an interesting Header, you will get a lot more hits than you really should.

[ETGator1]

There is no mention of Prather still hobbling coming off his high ankle sprain and Yeguete playing 1 minute before having to leave the Arkansas game.

How about a mention of how the team adjusted to Yeguete's loss by adding back Prather successfully and going on to punk slap UK who was on a 6 game winning streak (Noel's injury had zero to do with the UK loss). The Gators held UK to their second lowest point production of the season and their largest loss of the season at a time when UK was considered to be an improved team since early in the season. The cats lost some close games to some very good teams.

Give some credit to a team that has had to overcome numerous injuries to continue to perform highly and dominate the SEC. Murphy playing with his fractured rib, Wilbekin with a broken finger on his shooting hand, Prather twice with a concussion and a high ankle sprain, and now Yeguete with his knee surgery after having played in pain for much of the season. That's a lot of injuries to overcome when you consider everybody has given Duke a pass for losing one player, Ryan Kelly.

If you want to question UF, do it with a game that should be questioned. UF led at Arizona 65-59 going into the last minute of the game and lost 66-65. UF couldn't get the ball inbounds when we should have been parading to the free throw line and a win. This loss by breaking down at a critical point in the game, did in twice actually as we couldn't close out the first half either, is far more concerning to me than a loss at Arkansas when the piggies shot lights out and UF didn't successfully adjust for its injured players. I'm concerned the team will fall apart in a critical game like it did in the second half against Louisville in the NCAA tournament and again in Arizona. One would hope with all of the experience on this team that the team has moved on from the possibilities of breakdown losses.

The bad loss at Arkansas doesn't concern me at all now that the Gators have adjusted for the available personnel. The article to me is baseless, really just an excuse for wanting to doubt UF.

[NorthCaptivaGator]

Originally Posted by ETGator1

There is no mention of Prather still hobbling coming off his high ankle sprain and Yeguete playing 1 minute before having to leave the Arkansas game.

How about a mention of how the team adjusted to Yeguete's loss by adding back Prather successfully and going on to punk slap UK who was on a 6 game winning streak (Noel's injury had zero to do with the UK loss). The Gators held UK to their second lowest point production of the season and their largest loss of the season at a time when UK was considered to be an improved team since early in the season. The cats lost some close games to some very good teams.

Give some credit to a team that has had to overcome numerous injuries to continue to perform highly and dominate the SEC. Murphy playing with his fractured rib, Wilbekin with a broken finger on his shooting hand, Prather twice with a concussion and a high ankle sprain, and now Yeguete with his knee surgery after having played in pain for much of the season. That's a lot of injuries to overcome when you consider everybody has given Duke a pass for losing one player, Ryan Kelly.

If you want to question UF, do it with a game that should be questioned. UF led at Arizona 65-59 going into the last minute of the game and lost 66-65. UF couldn't get the ball inbounds when we should have been parading to the free throw line and a win. This loss by breaking down at a critical point in the game, did in twice actually as we couldn't close out the first half either, is far more concerning to me than a loss at Arkansas when the piggies shot lights out and UF didn't successfully adjust for its injured players. I'm concerned the team will fall apart in a critical game like it did in the second half against Louisville in the NCAA tournament and again in Arizona. One would hope with all of the experience on this team that the team has moved on from the possibilities of breakdown losses.

The bad loss at Arkansas doesn't concern me at all now that the Gators have adjusted for the available personnel. The article to me is baseless, really just an excuse for wanting to doubt UF.

I agree with your sentiment, sometimes, on the road in a place like Arkansas, when you have guys that are 2-17 from the arc hitting two in a row, you just realize it is not going to be your night,

What no one mentions or wants to talk about is what happened against UK, a 21 point lead was down to twelve and twice Uk took 3 pointers that could have cut it to 9, just under 10 mins left, then Rosario got the steal and Noel got injured and the Gators were never threatened again. I know I am not the only one who started to have Louisville and Butler flashbacks as Rosario and Frazier threw up back to back bad shots and UK got on a little 5-0 run to cut the lead to 12. If Noel doesn't get hurt we could have really had a chance to see just how much these Gators have grown, I hope we still get that chance before the tourney, maybe at Mizzou as they are playing better.

[SmootyGator]

While true that every good team almost always has letdowns, I prefer to keep talking about the Arkansas loss for as long as it takes. Keep that sucker fresh in our minds.

[REM08]

Originally Posted by NorthCaptivaGator

I agree with your sentiment, sometimes, on the road in a place like Arkansas, when you have guys that are 2-17 from the arc hitting two in a row, you just realize it is not going to be your night,

What no one mentions or wants to talk about is what happened against UK, a 21 point lead was down to twelve and twice Uk took 3 pointers that could have cut it to 9, just under 10 mins left, then Rosario got the steal and Noel got injured and the Gators were never threatened again. I know I am not the only one who started to have Louisville and Butler flashbacks as Rosario and Frazier threw up back to back bad shots and UK got on a little 5-0 run to cut the lead to 12. If Noel doesn't get hurt we could have really had a chance to see just how much these Gators have grown, I hope we still get that chance before the tourney, maybe at Mizzou as they are playing better.

I agree with this. Once UK was down twelve to Florida there was a sequence of events that really sum up this years UK team. Mays shot a 3 and missed, Poythress got the rebound and missed a layup and then a putback attempt, then Archie got the rebound and quickly lowered his head and committed a charge. Could have been a 9 or 10 point game and then Noel's injury happened soon after.

I'm not saying UK would have come back for sure. We had big comebacks against Duke and Louisville that both ended in close games, but we also got blown out at home by Baylor. Maybe Uk goes on a run and ties it, but maybe they get cold from 3 and Florida scores on 10 straight possessions.

[dadx4]

I would love for us to be a 2 seed with Duke being the 1 seed. That would be awesome. Or flip them with us a 1 and Duke a 2. We should be in the final four a lot easier if Duke even makes it that far.

[Go2gtr]

Originally Posted by REM08

I agree with this. Once UK was down twelve to Florida there was a sequence of events that really sum up this years UK team. Mays shot a 3 and missed, Poythress got the rebound and missed a layup and then a putback attempt, then Archie got the rebound and quickly lowered his head and committed a charge. Could have been a 9 or 10 point game and then Noel's injury happened soon after.

I'm not saying UK would have come back for sure. We had big comebacks against Duke and Louisville that both ended in close games, but we also got blown out at home by Baylor. Maybe Uk goes on a run and ties it, but maybe they get cold from 3 and Florida scores on 10 straight possessions.

This is a specious argument. The missed put back and the charge indicate defensively superior play, not some cosmic tough luck for KY. The missed three point shot is statistically a much greater probability than a make. Noel was out played by Patric Young all night. You're entitled to your opinion but you're a KY fan and being unrealistic is a characteristic of all fan bases. It doesn't sell over here IMO. Take your 17 point loss and be glad it wasn't more.

[gatormann]

The important thing form a Florida perspective, is that Florida, the topless fiance, cannot afford to bare its assets again against Auburn or Tennessee on the road, again. The Missouri road game and even the No Noel Wildcats are going to be tough enough to win.

Does the Arky game say something about Florida? I am not sure. Arkansas obviously played its game of the year. It couldn't miss but on the other hand, Florida never could get back into the game after the horrific start, and that is a bit worrisome. Where that game was lost, was the inabilty to get enough stops on Arkansas in the second half. A better defensive effort, could have allowed the Gators to at least make a game of it.

[REM08]

Originally Posted by Go2gtr

This is a specious argument. The missed put back and the charge indicate defensively superior play, not some cosmic tough luck for KY. The missed three point shot is statistically a much greater probability than a make. Noel was out played by Patric Young all night. You're entitled to your opinion but you're a KY fan and being unrealistic is a characteristic of all fan bases. It doesn't sell over here IMO. Take your 17 point loss and be glad it wasn't more.

Attention everyone. I'd like to point out the effects of bias in the above post. You see, when he read my post (the one he's responding to), he anticipated it being some kind of convenient recollection of the game that would make a UK fan feel better about his teams performance. This mean, instead of understanding the true meaning of my post, he subconsciously spun it his own way - that the UK fan is saying "we could/should have beaten yall and the difference between the two teams is not that big"

The sequence of events I posted WERE NOT posted to show that UK is close to as good as Florida, even with Noel. It was posted to merely suggest what another poster pointed out, that depending on how the rest of the game played out, its not entirely impossible that the score could have ended up closer. This would in NO way have been a statement for how lopsided the game really was. We've all used the expression "it wasn't nearly as close as the score suggests."

To be even clearer, I'm not complaining that UK didn't score in that possession. It was our best 3pt shooter (recently at least) that missed the 3, but that happens. Poythress can be a beast but can also have trouble making a lay up. Archie Goodwin charges more than any player in the league. Indeed, this sequence actually does sum up UK's season. Not one of bad luck, but one of ineptness. However, no, a missed putback and the charge do not speak to defensive superiority in the instance I'm speaking of. No doubt UF is a great defensive team. But Poythress' putback was not blocked or altered and Archie's charge was because he put his head down and tried to run over the defender like a truck.

The moral of the story is don't let an agenda get in the way of interpreting a post.