Did any of the conservatives here notice that Rubio contradicted himself?

[gator996]

Originally Posted by rajinGator

Me thinks Rubio scares the britches off the Dem politicians. They want more Romneys and McCains.

Conservatives have been saying that since Bush II...

Yeah, criticism of the conservatives must be born from fear...


Sarah Pallin
Paul Ryan
Donald Trump
John McCain
Mitt Romney
Herman Cain
Rick Perry
Newt Gringrich
Marco Rubio
Bobby Jindahl


That group invokes fear in anyone?

[MastaG8r]

Oh hello 996. Any comment on falsely accusing Marco Rubio's parents of being illegal immigrants? Care to share the source of that accusation you made? Or you can really impress us by being honest and admitting you made it up.

[Row6]

Originally Posted by dangolegators

I don't think Masta reads a whole lot of what his fellow conservatives post here. Maybe he's embarrassed by them.

One can hope the problem is lack of information - obvious and glaring as it is. I admire your patience to argue with someone declaring the cloudless sky is not blue.

[mdgator05]

One of the more interesting charts you will find on the matter is at this link:

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/20...ment-programs/

Over half of all student loan recipients don't list themselves as benefiting from a government social program.

There is a rather amazing list of government programs that people have received that for some reason people don't identify as government. 60% don't think they have when they have received the Home Mortgage Interest Deduction, 44% who received social security, 40% who have received a GI bill, and over a quarter of all people that have received welfare, Medicaid, government-subsidized housing, and food stamps.

This is why people like Rubio and Romney, when they run for office, talk about cutting government programs, but never ever go into specifics. Because there are a huge number of voters who have received those government programs without even thinking about them as government. So a call to cut other people's government is okay, while nobody should cut their government.

It is really a quantification of the "Keep your government hands off of my Medicare" people.

[gator421]

Originally Posted by mdgator05

One of the more interesting charts you will find on the matter is at this link:

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/20...ment-programs/

Over half of all student loan recipients don't list themselves as benefiting from a government social program.

There is a rather amazing list of government programs that people have received that for some reason people don't identify as government. 60% don't think they have when they have received the Home Mortgage Interest Deduction, 44% who received social security, 40% who have received a GI bill, and over a quarter of all people that have received welfare, Medicaid, government-subsidized housing, and food stamps.

This is why people like Rubio and Romney, when they run for office, talk about cutting government programs, but never ever go into specifics. Because there are a huge number of voters who have received those government programs without even thinking about them as government. So a call to cut other people's government is okay, while nobody should cut their government.

It is really a quantification of the "Keep your government hands off of my Medicare" people.

Reminds me of the retired Air Force dentist that lived in The Villages. He was at a Romney rally supporting him because he was tired of all the people on the public dole.

[Row6]

Originally Posted by gator421

Reminds me of the retired Air Force dentist that lived in The Villages. He was at a Romney rally supporting him because he was tired of all the people on the public dole.

The town that wouldn't exist without SS and Medicare.

[fredsanford]

The right continues to think that it's the messengers and not the message that is the problem.

This country will not swallow a hardcore conservative message, especially as it relates to dismantling SS and Medicare, no matter which huckster pushes it.

[QGator2414]

Originally Posted by mdgator05

One of the more interesting charts you will find on the matter is at this link:

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/20...ment-programs/

Over half of all student loan recipients don't list themselves as benefiting from a government social program.

There is a rather amazing list of government programs that people have received that for some reason people don't identify as government. 60% don't think they have when they have received the Home Mortgage Interest Deduction, 44% who received social security, 40% who have received a GI bill, and over a quarter of all people that have received welfare, Medicaid, government-subsidized housing, and food stamps.

This is why people like Rubio and Romney, when they run for office, talk about cutting government programs, but never ever go into specifics. Because there are a huge number of voters who have received those government programs without even thinking about them as government. So a call to cut other people's government is okay, while nobody should cut their government.

It is really a quantification of the "Keep your government hands off of my Medicare" people.

There is no doubt this is a real problem. And it is unfortunate that we do not have leaders from either party willing to be honest about what we are going to leave the future generations so we can keep the lifestyle we think we are owed...

[Tim85]

Originally Posted by mdgator05

One of the more interesting charts you will find on the matter is at this link:

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/20...ment-programs/

Over half of all student loan recipients don't list themselves as benefiting from a government social program.

There is a rather amazing list of government programs that people have received that for some reason people don't identify as government. 60% don't think they have when they have received the Home Mortgage Interest Deduction, 44% who received social security, 40% who have received a GI bill, and over a quarter of all people that have received welfare, Medicaid, government-subsidized housing, and food stamps.

This is why people like Rubio and Romney, when they run for office, talk about cutting government programs, but never ever go into specifics. Because there are a huge number of voters who have received those government programs without even thinking about them as government. So a call to cut other people's government is okay, while nobody should cut their government.

It is really a quantification of the "Keep your government hands off of my Medicare" people.

I agree that it's a problem, but as I said earlier, Rubio admitted first-hand on National television that the government helped him and he was basically glad for it. What more does he have to say to prove he doesn't hate the government? Why is that being ignored by 996 as well? And why hasn't the OP addressed the comments Masta brought up about falsely accusing Rubio's parents of being illegal?

Rubio said he couldn't have gone to college with out the loans, and that he wanted to modernize it and make it more efficient. Are those things you don't want for government programs? Efficiency? He's not going to go into specific detail because for one, it was a response to a speech, and secondly, he hasn't run for President or Vice-President yet, that's just simply how it works.

[GatorAvatar]

Originally Posted by Itssaul

I bet Rubio is heartbroken

No, he just became another Bobby Jindal.

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by GatorAvatar

No, he just became another Bobby Jindal.

Is that supposed to have some meaning?

[wgbgator]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

Is that supposed to have some meaning?

Rubio = next governor of Louisiana.

[GatorAvatar]

Originally Posted by Tim85

I agree that it's a problem, but as I said earlier, Rubio admitted first-hand on National television that the government helped him and he was basically glad for it. What more does he have to say to prove he doesn't hate the government? Why is that being ignored by 996 as well? And why hasn't the OP addressed the comments Masta brought up about falsely accusing Rubio's parents of being illegal?

Rubio said he couldn't have gone to college with out the loans, and that he wanted to modernize it and make it more efficient. Are those things you don't want for government programs? Efficiency? He's not going to go into specific detail because for one, it was a response to a speech, and secondly, he hasn't run for President or Vice-President yet, that's just simply how it works.

Did you hear the other side of his mouth...he blasted government for doing the same things he benefited from...that's where the hypocrisy label comes from.

[Tim85]

Originally Posted by gator996

Conservatives have been saying that since Bush II...

Yeah, criticism of the conservatives must be born from fear...


Sarah Pallin
Paul Ryan
Donald Trump
John McCain
Mitt Romney
Herman Cain
Rick Perry
Newt Gringrich
Marco Rubio
Bobby Jindahl

That group invokes fear in anyone?

Firstly, you only damage your chances at peope taking your opinions and positions seriously by incuding Donald Trump in that list. Can you even consider him a politician? His career isn't even comparable to the others, and neither is his "status" to the Republican party.

Secondly, the three I highlighted are significantly different in a multitude of ways -- and it's not partisan to see that or admit it. Even Wolf Blitzer the other night admitted, "He's [Marco Rubio] got a huge future ahead of him, he's a very impressive guy." Now if you don't want to admit Blitzer is as liberal as they come, then sure, but you certainly can't suggest he's conservative.

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by wgbgator

Rubio = next governor of Louisiana.

Hey, thanks for clearing that up

[GatorAvatar]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

Is that supposed to have some meaning?

Lol. Jindal was supposedly the saviour of the GOP and gave the GOP response to Obama's SOTU speech a few years back. What happened, well, let's say the rest is history.

[Tim85]

Originally Posted by GatorAvatar

Did you hear the other side of his mouth...he blasted government for doing the same things he benefited from...that's where the hypocrisy label comes from.

Where did he blast them for doing the same things he benefited from? His transcript can be found here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...adb_story.html

Secondly, in the view of almost all Republicans, our government is incredibly inefficient, and it's going to cost us, and more importantly, it's going to cost the children of today and the future children. They deserve to be "blasted," that's not anti-government, it's anti-inefficiency.

[GatorAvatar]

Originally Posted by Tim85

Firstly, you only damage your chances at peope taking your opinions and positions seriously by incuding Donald Trump in that list. Can you even consider him a politician? His career isn't even comparable to the others, and neither is his "status" to the Republican party.

Secondly, the three I highlighted are significantly different in a multitude of ways -- and it's not partisan to see that or admit it. Even Wolf Blitzer the other night admitted, "He's [Marco Rubio] got a huge future ahead of him, he's a very impressive guy." Now if you don't want to admit Blitzer is as liberal as they come, then sure, but you certainly can't suggest he's conservative.

Blitzer a liberal? Lol. Secondly, Rubio came into the Senate on a teaparty ticket. He won't sniff the White House, unless he makes a u-turn from those policies.

[Tim85]

Originally Posted by GatorAvatar

Lol. Jindal was supposedly the saviour of the GOP and gave the GOP response to Obama's SOTU speech a few years back. What happened, well, let's say the rest is history.

What happened was that he stayed loyal to the state of Lousiana, and nothing more. The guy could do anything he wanted, including run for POTUS, still, to this day. You're suggesting his time is over or something, which is just silliness. The guy is only like 42 years old. This is the type of political-talk that brings or incites no enlightenment or progression -- you're basically slandering the guy with absolutely no facts to back it up.

[GatorAvatar]

Originally Posted by Tim85

What happened was that he stayed loyal to the state of Lousiana, and nothing more. The guy could do anything he wanted, including run for POTUS, still, to this day. You're suggesting his time is over or something, which is just silliness. The guy is only like 42 years old. This is the type of political-talk that brings or incites no enlightenment or progression -- you're basically slandering the guy with absolutely no facts to back it up.

His speech was a snooze fest. It was bizarre to say the least. It was as weird as Rubio's speech (water break, lip smacking, face rubbing etc). After that weird speech Jindal's stock plummeted. His brand got damaged. Rubio's stock is also damaged...he is gonna be remembered as a caricature.