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Old 02-13-2013, 11:36 PM   #141
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Rem just curious,but is Catpause the best kentucky website to talk bball?
Its definitely the most infamous but not the best. Because there isn't really another staple, its the one most fans flock to first. They usually end up migrating to a smaller board. Truebluekentucky is probably the best of the small ones right now. Scout and 24/7 aren't as great but I'm not that familiar with them. If I'm not mistaken, I think Jeff is active over at truebluekentucky.

I think the go-to site for UK is kentuckysportsradio.com. My only gripe is that they don't have message boards, as its a blog, and the only communication from fans is through comment sections.
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Par for the course for UK. I was at the Tebow concussion game and 1/2 the stadium was cheering him being injured.
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:04 AM   #143
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I watched the game twice and those cheap elbow shots happen every game and I would bet that Noel receives more then he gives out.

In fact your post proves just how little you have watch Noel play because he is about the most cool headed kid in the game.

I saw no problem with Florida's treatment of Noel. It was a damned accident with no contact involved. Noel landed wrong. That is it.
I believe his comment was about this one particular game.
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Old 02-14-2013, 01:10 AM   #144
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I agree with the nurse. If you have a game in YOUR coliseum, you should be prepared with paramedics ready to do whatever is necessary to eliminate serious problems. I see it even as a liability thing. What the heck! Especially, in basketball, if the other team has a player down, your trainer should ask what he can do to help,,,,,LIke CALL the paramedic, etc. Seems common sense and courtesy to me. I also see the expense, but goodness, your talking about multi-million dollar careers here. If MY young'un was hurt in a place like this I'd want the best immediate reaction care available. EVEN if you have a hospital on campus, have a means to get them off the court, into a evac vehicle and outa there immediately. Of course, the trainer may have wanted some time to eval himself so I can't say much more because I don't know particulars. All of this may have been available.
brolowe, did you not read the posts which stated that the TEAM TRAINERS/DR are responsible for deciding how their injured player is handled? The UF staff offered their assistance but were told their help was not wanted/needed. EMTS and equipment for players removal is available for each game but they cannot do anything unless requested by the staff of injured player!

Obviously UK did not want any outside assistance. As stated in another post the UF AD addressed this today when he just happened to be scheduled on a radio show. A caller asked why we didn't have stretchers or cart available for players removal from court. Answer was we have EMTS & equipment at every game but you don't give assistance if it's not requested or wanted! Seems pretty simple.
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Par for the course for UK. I was at the Tebow concussion game and 1/2 the stadium was cheering him being injured.
I was at the game and it was extremely quiet while he was unconscious. In the UK section adjacent to ours, there was one UK fan making obnoxious comments.
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I was at the game and it was extremely quiet while he was unconscious. In the UK section adjacent to ours, there was one UK fan making obnoxious comments.
That is true. However I was talking about the first 20-30 secs after the play when they saw he was hurt. And there was a difference in that they were cheering because they saw he was hurt and the initial roar that went with cheering on the big hit. Once it looked as serious as it was most of the stadium was quiet. Not where I was sitting though, I was in the UK student section unfortunately.
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That is true. However I was talking about the first 20-30 secs after the play when they saw he was hurt. And there was a difference in that they were cheering because they saw he was hurt and the initial roar that went with cheering on the big hit. Once it looked as serious as it was most of the stadium was quiet. Not where I was sitting though, I was in the UK student section unfortunately.
I did hear the same thing from others who sat near the student section, but I was far enough away from them that I didn't heat it.

You also have to remember that this is a fan base that stormed the field and tore down a goal post after losing to LSU. Sometimes it takes them a while to understand what actually happens on the field.
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First time I have seen this image of the injury. Ouch!!

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I was waiting to see how the fans would react and all I heard were cheers when he walked off. Maybe it was different if you were at the game.

It might have something to do with Noel's behavior during the game. He twice took cheap elbow shots at Murphy and Prather and he grabbed Boynton and swung him around.

Like I said in the thread that got closed, I never root for injuries and I hope he is okay, but he was playing on the dirty side last night and that probably didn't sit well with the fans.

Still, they should never cheer for an injury, so if they did, that is classless.

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Art...cheering the player being up and about NOT that he was he was injured.
VERY CLASSY. Just like in football. The crowd was great.
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Stop bringing that logic and clarity here. You'll rob all these Florida fans a chance at the cathardic process of demonizing an entire rival fanbase because of minority posts on...catspause!

Good grief you guys. Its like, after the win last night many of you have become disrespect detectives... Espn didn't give Uf enough props, Noel's injury has gotten too much attention, an 11 yr old on catspause said this, a 14 yr old said that...
The link I posted was started simply to rip us and many in the thread did. I also fairly pointed out that not everyone shared their view. Not sure what board you were on. And I was the first defend ESPN for covering it correctly.
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If SWAG would have just dropped the dime to Young for the flush none of this would have happened.
First, as the saying goes: "and if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle." Or, for those that prefer the more office-friendly version: "hindsight is 20/20."

Second, I think you're remembering the wrong play. This happened when Rosario intercepted a pass intended for Noel near half court, and took off for an open layup. It was a hustle play and Noel came down funny from the jump, which was the cause of the injury (not from hitting the backstop, as has been mentioned by some). Rosario had what appeared to be a clean fast break and in that scenario, the coaches would instruct him to take that shot every time as opposed to hesitating and looking for a better option (i.e., "overthinking," like Prather and Parsons and many others had a problem with early, or "showboating" which will send you to the bench if your pass off the backboard doesn't get dunked by the teammate you think is trailing you).

Applying that logic, you could just as easily say that if Noel didn't try to chase down a fast break that many players would concede as out of reach "none of this would have happened," and a biomedical engineer might conclude that Noel's arm getting hung up on Rosario's head may have been what threw his body out of biomechanical alignment upon landing from the jump (straight leg plant while landing off balance is the leading cause of this sports injury). But same thing as above: every coach is going to instruct you to try to make the hustle play and prevent the bucket if you can.



To suggest culpability on Rosario's part (or any Gator player) for this injury is absolutely wrong and unfair to him. Both players were playing very hard and doing exactly what they were coached to do when this total accident occurred.
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Hey, this is just desparate and ignorant Kentucky fan ranting because they are hurt and angry. I feel bad for Noel but I feel even worse for all the Kentucky wives who had black eyes and Kentucky pet dogs with bruised ribs on Wednesday morning as those Cat fans found other ways to vent their frustrations.

Tsk, tsk, tsk.
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Rosario is a genius, timed that jump perfectly to ruin UK's season.
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First, as the saying goes: "and if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle." Or, for those that prefer the more office-friendly version: "hindsight is 20/20."

Second, I think you're remembering the wrong play. This happened when Rosario intercepted a pass intended for Noel near half court, and took off for an open layup. It was a hustle play and Noel came down funny from the jump, which was the cause of the injury (not from hitting the backstop, as has been mentioned by some). Rosario had what appeared to be a clean fast break and in that scenario, the coaches would instruct him to take that shot every time as opposed to hesitating and looking for a better option (i.e., "overthinking," like Prather and Parsons and many others had a problem with early, or "showboating" which will send you to the bench if your pass off the backboard doesn't get dunked by the teammate you think is trailing you).

Applying that logic, you could just as easily say that if Noel didn't try to chase down a fast break that many players would concede as out of reach "none of this would have happened," and a biomedical engineer might conclude that Noel's arm getting hung up on Rosario's head may have been what threw his body out of biomechanical alignment upon landing from the jump (straight leg plant while landing off balance is the leading cause of this sports injury). But same thing as above: every coach is going to instruct you to try to make the hustle play and prevent the bucket if you can.



To suggest culpability on Rosario's part (or any Gator player) for this injury is absolutely wrong and unfair to him. Both players were playing very hard and doing exactly what they were coached to do when this total accident occurred.
I was just kidding but thank you for taking the time to explain this all to me sorry if it came off the wrong way. I know it isnt anyones fault.



Here is the play and the what if part.
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Its definitely the most infamous but not the best. Because there isn't really another staple, its the one most fans flock to first. They usually end up migrating to a smaller board. Truebluekentucky is probably the best of the small ones right now. Scout and 24/7 aren't as great but I'm not that familiar with them. If I'm not mistaken, I think Jeff is active over at truebluekentucky.

I think the go-to site for UK is kentuckysportsradio.com. My only gripe is that they don't have message boards, as its a blog, and the only communication from fans is through comment sections.
Well I have a totally different position. REM is correct that Rupps Rafters is probably the most used basketball board around and because of the volume it is hard to keep track of the threads you are interested. Rival does not have the Scout function that gives a little check if you have posted on a thread. That is a fantastic function that Scout should really be proud of and that function alone would improve RR very much.

This is where I differ from REM.

My view is that Rupps Rafters is the best message board around simply because of its size and the vast subject areas. For 11 years I have been a premium member of that board "House of Blue". The HOB is far more constrained by folks who are willing to pay and the volume is a small fraction of the numbers on the free board. So after a UK loss I go to the HOB to avoid all the passers by and flamers on RR, but for the most part if a subject is not on RR then it is not worth looking for.

Rupps Rafters is a free board and the mods basically allows a lot of latititude before they whack you. In fact if you get banned from Rupps Rafters you have basically gone a long way off the reservation. So because of this you end up with a bunch of kids posting the most outrageous things on earth and a bunch of flamers and drive bys starting a flame war just to get the boozos responding.

But back to the message board concept: I have been with Rupps Rafters and its ancestors, i.e. The Cats Pause and ones before that for a very long time. In fact I have not changed my password over there for nearly 14 years. You have to wade through a bunch of stuff but if it touches UK basketball it will be there. A casual UK fan will not enjoy it much I suppose, but it is the holy grail of Kentucky basketball.

On Nuttin' but Net the mods control things a lot closer and the volume is "friendly". I like Florida basketball and that I why I continue to be on NBN. My only problem is that I defend attacks on UK. I shouldn't but I do. But NBN is a very nice place to follow Florida basketball.
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Alright... someone save me from 8 pages of reivew, or having to visit Catspuse. . . .

Are there fans who are really somehow suggesting Rosario is to blame?!?!?!?!!?
Really??????
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