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dailydoublecat · 02-13-2013, 09:45 PM

When you are down with the flu and feel awful you have time to think and reflect. I have changed my mind on a few things!!
1. I now believe you have to have a core of upperclassmen for your team to be elite.
2. Kentucky will not win another title under Calipari. I do believe we caught lightning in a bottle.

You guys have been preaching to me for years and I finally get the message.
Jeff

tilly · 02-13-2013, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dailydoublecat

When you are down with the flu and feel awful you have time to think and reflect. I have changed my mind on a few things!!
1. I now believe you have to have a core of upperclassmen for your team to be elite.
2. Kentucky will not win another title under Calipari. I do believe we caught lightning in a bottle.

You guys have been preaching to me for years and I finally get the message.
Jeff

Whoa Jeff. I think that's the meds talking! He may win again, but it will probably be a different route.

Hope your feeling better buddy. Prayers for NN as well.

tommyuf21 · 02-13-2013, 09:52 PM

I think the moral of the story is that it never is quite at great as you think or as bad as you fear.

Special teams don't appear every year though. I don't expect another version of the 04's to step foot on campus, nor should you expect last year's UK team to be an annual occurance.

We both have fans that disagree with my views though.

REM08 · 02-13-2013, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dailydoublecat

When you are down with the flu and feel awful you have time to think and reflect. I have changed my mind on a few things!!
1. I now believe you have to have a core of upperclassmen for your team to be elite.
2. Kentucky will not win another title under Calipari. I do believe we caught lightning in a bottle.

You guys have been preaching to me for years and I finally get the message.
Jeff

Hoping someone hacked your account or something. You've got plent of rep points I don't think you need to go this far. To each his own I guess.

I agree with the above posts that mention no coach winning exactly the same way twice. All coaches have to do is put a team together that has a SHOT at winning 6 games in a row in March. Its not like you have to go undefeated.

**Gatuar** · 02-13-2013, 09:59 PM

Ehhh...they could dominate next year. You keep signing ridiculous classes like that they'll pan out more often than not

ETGator1 · 02-13-2013, 10:05 PM

Did I detect sarcasm or is this for real? The thing is you had some impactful upper classmen last year. Witjer is about it this season. Polson, Hood, and the 7 footer are just ok.

dailydoublecat · 02-13-2013, 10:06 PM

REM no hacking just how I feel. Kentucky will start all over again next year with no core again. Unless Calipari changes his philosophy a bit we won't win. It really alarms me how Alex and Archie are leaving to the NBA when they do little if anything well.
Jeff

themistocles · 02-13-2013, 10:09 PM

Hope you are feeling better Jeff.

Experience helps.

Talent helps.

We may never see another UCLA type run, at least partly due to the fact that there are a lot of very good basketball players coming out of the AAU and High School pipelines today, so, you don't really need to grab the absolute top, but a ways down, like this year's gator team, except for Boynton, Young and Rosario.

When good players get a change to learn each other's ways and mesh, like this year's 7 upper classmen team, they can be tough to beat.

I think that Cali may well win it all again, even with primarily 1 and dones. Of course, last year, you had some 2s and dones, plus some more experienced players and they meshed together very well. It was not merely a 1 and done team.

Next year may prove similar - we will see what we will see.

SwampFox · 02-13-2013, 10:11 PM

Ok, while your thinking rational Jeff, 3 year college requirements for kids, as acquiring some maturity, physical and emotional, can only help kids later in life. The money will be there regardless.

Just nod

tommyuf21 · 02-13-2013, 10:12 PM

Billy got burned a bit when some of his McD's either didn't show up on campus (Brown) and left early or transfered (Harvey, James White, Miller).

He made a conscientous effort to sign some guys with talent, but not early exit burger boys. We all remember who they were.

I firmly believe that you need to mix it up. It's like marketing, don't put all of your eggs in one basket. You want a mix of some spectacular talent, really good players that will stay at least two-three years and some glue guys who are good for four.

ETGator1 · 02-13-2013, 10:13 PM

I said in another thread that Poythress is a year away from being another Michael Kidd Gilchrist, but the NBA will take him anyway based on potential. A couple of the freshmen should come back to help form the nucleus of a better team. That makes sense to me so it won 't happen. (G)

GatorsGators · 02-13-2013, 10:13 PM

This year is the anomaly imo. They've been in contention every year under Calipari. One bad year shows that the philosophy isn't perfect, but it does create a contending team more often than not.

This year they had what was a weak class (by Calipari's standards) in a weak class. Next year they have arguably their best class on paper in what is considered to be a strong class. They'll be good next year. Just how good remains to be seen (I'm not buying they'll run over everyone like a lot of people are saying), but I seriously doubt they'll be anywhere near as bad as they are this season.

keypox · 02-13-2013, 10:15 PM

Calipari is a cheating snake, a great recruiter, and a crappy coach.

That is called a complement sandwich.

CAGator93 · 02-13-2013, 10:16 PM

Hope you feel better Jeff.

We should really be better equipped on this board to take care of rival fans with the flu.

REM08 · 02-13-2013, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dailydoublecat

REM no hacking just how I feel. Kentucky will start all over again next year with no core again. Unless Calipari changes his philosophy a bit we won't win. It really alarms me how Alex and Archie are leaving to the NBA when they do little if anything well.
Jeff

After winning it last year, I expected a large exodus. However, I share your frustration that this year could be equally significant (or close) but without the results. Cal's strategy is surely not without risk and chance. At best it can lead to very successful years closely packed together, but at its worst it can produce some straight up ugliness. I think other coaches strategies can do just the same. I think he'll luck out sometimes and have other times like this year. I also think he's not a dumb guy and will adjust as he sees fit just like any coach would. All this depending on how long he's at Uk of course.

BEH · 02-13-2013, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dailydoublecat

When you are down with the flu and feel awful you have time to think and reflect. I have changed my mind on a few things!!
1. I now believe you have to have a core of upperclassmen for your team to be elite.
2. Kentucky will not win another title under Calipari. I do believe we caught lightning in a bottle.

You guys have been preaching to me for years and I finally get the message.
Jeff

The only problem is that you are wrong.

Kentucky won only one title under Joe B. Hall, Rick Pitino and Tubby Smith.

Last year was the best team UK has ever had, in my opinion, and the core were freshmen, with two sophs and one senior.

Kentucky will win another title under Calipari.

g8rboy · 02-13-2013, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CAGator93

Hope you feel better Jeff.

We should really be better equipped on this board to take care of rival fans with the flu.

Nice.

**ThePlayer** · 02-13-2013, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dailydoublecat

When you are down with the flu and feel awful you have time to think and reflect. I have changed my mind on a few things!!
1. I now believe you have to have a core of upperclassmen for your team to be elite.
2. Kentucky will not win another title under Calipari. I do believe we caught lightning in a bottle.

You guys have been preaching to me for years and I finally get the message.
Jeff

Step away from the drugs, my brother.
The thrill ride with all that talent will be fun enough!!

BengermanV · 02-13-2013, 11:21 PM

Well, this is how I look at it.

I think Billy Donovan is a top coach in the country, and maybe even the best. But there is a damn good chance (even if he were here for about another 10 years) that he'll never win another title here again. So saying that Calipari won't win another title at UK shouldn't come as too much of a shock, as those things are very hard to win.

On the other hand, I think Kentucky will probably be one of the favorites to win it all next year, and that probably won't be the last time under Calipari. I think you need a mixture of experienced guys and guys with talent. Kentucky had that last year (so did the Gators) and were lucky enough to capitalize on it. I would agree, however, that if he can't find a few guys to stay at some point in the next few years they likely won't win another title. JMO.

gatorbogey · 02-13-2013, 11:31 PM

i'm thinking calipari will realize the need for veteran leadership to groom the young uns. i think he'll seek to balance the depth chart out a little better.

growing pains this season because everyone is new.

to win it all is rare. i think fans in general need to temper expectations.