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Old 02-11-2013, 10:52 AM   #21
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All of them are stinking pedophile-enablers.
I'm Catholic buddy.... Am I a pedophile?
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Old 02-11-2013, 10:53 AM   #22
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I'm not Catholic but my guess is that the biggest push is going to be for one from Central/South America. That seems to be the place of the most stability in the ranks.
I would be surprised if it doesn't end up being somebody from the Southern Hemisphere or Central America. I think the thought last time was that they wanted to have a transitional pope, so they picked an older one with a more traditional background. But many of the candidates being considered were Central/South American or African.

On Masta's point, most of the African Cardinals are pretty opposed to changes in church doctrine like allowing clergy to marry. So I doubt we see much change in that fashion if one of the main African cardinals are elected, unless they have some sort of a Nixon goes to China moment. There were some really good candidates from Latin America that I would like to see.
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This conservative Catholic hopes the new Pope will be open to the idea of ending the celibacy requirement for priests and allowing them to marry. It is necessary for the salvation of the Church.
Quick question for you. Who was the first Pope?
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Could it be a married man Simon Peter
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I'm Catholic buddy.... Am I a pedophile?
Have you complained to your church about the rampant child abuse? But I digress...I'm referring to the top Catholic leaders.
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Have you complained to your church about the rampant child abuse? But I digress...I'm referring to the top Catholic leaders.
Is there child abuse in his church?
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All of them are stinking pedophile-enablers.

Is that all Catholics, all priests, or all Popes ?
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Quick question for you. Who was the first Pope?
It was not until the Council of Chalcedon in the 5th century that the bishop of Rome, Leo I, was designated pope. Previous to that time all priests & bishops were called popes. The Council attempted to restrict the title exclusively to the bishop of Rome & conferred it posthumously on all previous bishops of Rome in order to make it appear that an unbroken succession of popes had preceded from Peter.
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Is that all Catholics, all priests, or all Popes ?
No. It's the Catholic institution. The members can either fold their hands and let kids be abused while the select few in position of power hide it. Or they can voice their concerns, the way they voice their concerns (loudly and publicly) regarding abortion, contraception etc. Remember when Notre Dame Catholics demonstrated against Obama speaking at their commencement, calling him a baby killer. They could do the same to the Priests and call them enablers of child abuse.
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No. It's the Catholic institution. The members can either fold their hands and let kids be abused while the select few in position of power hide it. Or they can voice their concerns, the way they voice their concerns (loudly and publicly) regarding abortion, contraception etc. Remember when Notre Dame Catholics demonstrated against Obama speaking at their commencement, calling him a baby killer. They could do the same to the Priests and call them enablers of child abuse.
Except for the FACT that obama actually supports killing babies...
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Except for the FACT that obama actually supports killing babies...
And the pope likes to protect sodomizing priests.
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so do most catholics.
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It was not until the Council of Chalcedon in the 5th century that the bishop of Rome, Leo I, was designated pope. Previous to that time all priests & bishops were called popes. The Council attempted to restrict the title exclusively to the bishop of Rome & conferred it posthumously on all previous bishops of Rome in order to make it appear that an unbroken succession of popes had preceded from Peter.
That's my point. Peter is considered the first pope and yet he was married. So where does the idea that a priest has to be unmarried come from?
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Old 02-11-2013, 04:03 PM   #38
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No. It's the Catholic institution. The members can either fold their hands and let kids be abused while the select few in position of power hide it. Or they can voice their concerns, the way they voice their concerns (loudly and publicly) regarding abortion, contraception etc. Remember when Notre Dame Catholics demonstrated against Obama speaking at their commencement, calling him a baby killer. They could do the same to the Priests and call them enablers of child abuse.

Actually, the laity has raised their collective voices (loudly and publicly) against the abuse and demanded justice and change. And, the victims have sued.

Things have changed.

But I doubt you would first, know that, or second, acknowledge it if you did.
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The next one is "Peter the Roman," right?
That's ironic, because if Peter was ever in Rome for 25 years, you got to wonder why Paul in his letter to the Romans never even mentioned Peter at the very same period he was supposed to be there. As they say, strange indeed!
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Actually, the laity has raised their collective voices (loudly and publicly) against the abuse and demanded justice and change. And, the victims have sued.

Things have changed.

But I doubt you would first, know that, or second, acknowledge it if you did.
The only people raising their voices loudly and publicly are the victims and liberal nuns.
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