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02-10-2013, 10:58 AM
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Anyone thinking that we are just going to "replace" Elam, Evans, Bostic, Jenkins, McCray,Hunter and Floyd at an "equal level" with less experienced players coming up are on crack or know next to nothing about the value of experience. We have great talent in the wings, but Defense requires coordination, experience and SEC strength as well.
Bostic and Jenkins didn't know their drops and reads until later in their careers. Hunter took until his senior year to dominate, Floyd and Elam were a once every few years type players. McCray took a couple of years to develop to better better than Powell who is off of 2 years of injury. Evans, ditto.
Love what Morrison will become (N. Ball too), but he and Taylor have yet to develop their drops and have no proven DT's to keep blockers off of them.
Will will be good, but by all reasonable estimates, D takes a step back next year...even with Muschamp's magic.
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02-10-2013, 11:17 AM
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Heisman Finalist
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Originally Posted by manigordo
Anyone thinking that we are just going to "replace" Elam, Evans, Bostic, Jenkins, McCray,Hunter and Floyd at an "equal level" with less experienced players coming up are on crack or know next to nothing about the value of experience. We have great talent in the wings, but Defense requires coordination, experience and SEC strength as well.
Bostic and Jenkins didn't know their drops and reads until later in their careers. Hunter took until his senior year to dominate, Floyd and Elam were a once every few years type players. McCray took a couple of years to develop to better better than Powell who is off of 2 years of injury. Evans, ditto.
Love what Morrison will become (N. Ball too), but he and Taylor have yet to develop their drops and have no proven DT's to keep blockers off of them.
Will will be good, but by all reasonable estimates, D takes a step back next year...even with Muschamp's magic.
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Yep. There is almost 0% chance our defense is as good as it was last year.
Unfortunately some here will blame Durkin as the new DC, but you just can't lose this much NFL talent and then expect to somehow stay at the same level or even get better.
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02-10-2013, 06:08 PM
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Heisman Finalist
Join Date: Feb 2009
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If the D takes a step back the offense needs to take a leap forward of we want to win 10 games much less compete for the East.
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02-10-2013, 11:26 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Utah
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Originally Posted by manigordo
Anyone thinking that we are just going to "replace" Elam, Evans, Bostic, Jenkins, McCray,Hunter and Floyd at an "equal level" with less experienced players coming up are on crack or know next to nothing about the value of experience. We have great talent in the wings, but Defense requires coordination, experience and SEC strength as well.
Bostic and Jenkins didn't know their drops and reads until later in their careers. Hunter took until his senior year to dominate, Floyd and Elam were a once every few years type players. McCray took a couple of years to develop to better better than Powell who is off of 2 years of injury. Evans, ditto.
Love what Morrison will become (N. Ball too), but he and Taylor have yet to develop their drops and have no proven DT's to keep blockers off of them.
Will will be good, but by all reasonable estimates, D takes a step back next year...even with Muschamp's magic.
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Our D was pretty good with less experience in 2011, but the effort was masked by an inept offense. The difference in 2012 is the team played like a team. I suspect unless something happens, we will continue to play like a team. The level of play from the backups this year we not a big drop off, and may have been better at the LB positions with Taylor and Morrison. These guys will be in the NFL as well. Ball also showed a lot of promise and will continue to improve.
We will be fine in 2013. If the offense can put more points on the board then the sky is the limit.
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02-11-2013, 12:56 AM
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Heisman Candidate
Join Date: Nov 2010
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Originally Posted by socraticsilence
Bostic, was good but I could see us upgrading, Elam (and to a lesser extent Evans) are much bigger holes- freshman regardless of talent level need time to mature and gain experience- other than QB, safety is probably the most experience dependent position on the field- look how our safeties jumped from 2007 to 2008-- we could experience something similar next season but this year big plays might happen.
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Sure, Elam was a beast, and Bostic was very good, but I beleive the younger will step it up and fill in, and our offense should be better this year. The worst I see us is at 9-3, but I'm not sleeping less at night worrying about it.
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02-11-2013, 10:40 AM
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Heisman Winner
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Originally Posted by TheGator
Our D was pretty good with less experience in 2011, but the effort was masked by an inept offense. The difference in 2012 is the team played like a team. I suspect unless something happens, we will continue to play like a team. The level of play from the backups this year we not a big drop off, and may have been better at the LB positions with Taylor and Morrison. These guys will be in the NFL as well. Ball also showed a lot of promise and will continue to improve.
We will be fine in 2013. If the offense can put more points on the board then the sky is the limit.
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Don't disagree at all. We will be fine. Of course, I did not say we wouldn't; just that our D would take a step back. I believe you are correct about the O and how it will make the D easier. Doesn't change my outlook on D.
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02-11-2013, 02:48 PM
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Gator Country Silver
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Originally Posted by socraticsilence
No doubt but we need more Grier looks good but the lack of big comp scares me a lot, additionally we have no one with experience this year other than JD and who is gonna push him and or come in if he doesn't improve?
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He's #18 player on the Rivals Top 100! Theres not another QB who's better. He was selected by the staff as our top priority.
Maybe If Urban offers, you'll gain some faith in him?
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02-11-2013, 07:05 PM
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Redshirt Freshman
Join Date: Jan 2012
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Grier is #2 QB on Rivals 100. Watson is #1. Grier is really good. Not worried. Some people on here will complain about everything. It is just what they do.
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