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**QGator2414** · 02-10-2013, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

Sorry but this guy articulated ideas and did it very well. Like I said earlier, it should have been people like him that were brought in for ideas in healthcare reform, and not done behind closed doors with lawyers and politicians. It's interesting that you view the problems we such as the debt as partisan. FYI, the good Dr. is not a Republican or a Democrat.

+1

Listened to the whole thing for the first time this morning. Unfortunately it was only partisan to the sensitive out there who allow people with other views to close their mind and do not want solutions...

Row6 · 02-10-2013, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveFla

Neither the prayer breakfast nor the SOTU address were appropriate venues for criticism such as this. You simply can't criticize instance one without criticizing the other.

No, I just did, and would hold the same opinion, no matter who was president at the time.

Row6 · 02-10-2013, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

Sorry but this guy articulated ideas and did it very well. Like I said earlier, it should have been people like him that were brought in for ideas in healthcare reform, and not done behind closed doors with lawyers and politicians. It's interesting that you view the problems such as the debt as partisan. FYI, the good Dr. is not a Republican or a Democrat.

The good Dr should run for office if he wants to promote his ideas, not use a non-partisan prayer breakfast for that purpose.

chemgator · 02-10-2013, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Row6

Quite a "non-partisan prayer breakfast", apparently featuring a speaker rude enough to promote his entirely partisan political beliefs before a captive audience.

Why do you think he's partisan? He merely presented facts about politics, education, health care, and other topics, and proposed intelligent solutions. Yes, he seems to be a fiscal conservative, but that doesn't make him partisan--it makes him responsible. Are you saying that one of the political parties (i.e., the democrats) has fiscal irresponsibility as a main political platform? That's an interesting concept.

**gatorman_07732** · 02-10-2013, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Row6

The good Dr should run for office if he wants to promote his ideas, not use a non-partisan prayer breakfast for that purpose.

He had the stage and made good use of his time which is admirable. You just don't happen to like what he said because it was counter to your ideology. Careful what you ask for, because he retires in July.

Row6 · 02-10-2013, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by chemgator

Why do you think he's partisan? He merely presented facts about politics, education, health care, and other topics, and proposed intelligent solutions. Yes, he seems to be a fiscal conservative, but that doesn't make him partisan--it makes him responsible. Are you saying that one of the political parties (i.e., the democrats) has fiscal irresponsibility as a main political platform? That's an interesting concept.

He used a non-partisan event which was meant to promote brotherhood through faith to promote his political ideas. If he limited his discussion to his admirable work with school kids or as a surgeon he would be in bounds. Promoting a political agenda which is not a matter of fact and not shared by some in the audience who might otherwise applaud him and good works was poor judgement and bad manners. As I noted already, the president made no similar appeal for his political ideas, and if he had, could be rightly criticized for it.

Row6 · 02-10-2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

He had the stage and made good use of his time which is admirable. You just don't happen to like what he said because it was counter to your ideology. Careful what you ask for, because he retires in July.

I don't like bad manners and don't consider what he said either noteworthy or some threat to the president's agenda which I generally support. That is not the point.

**gatorman_07732** · 02-10-2013, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Row6

I don't like bad manners and don't consider what he said either noteworthy or some threat to the president's agenda which I generally support. That is not the point.

Bad manners? Are you crazy? You're way out on a limb.

mocgator · 02-10-2013, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Row6

You wish. Your President followed the "smarter man" and made neither reference to him or his remarks and politely - unlike your rude hero - did not try to score political points with a captive audience that was there for other purposes.

The Wall Street Journal chimes in.

Carson for President

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...ditorialPage_h

HALLGATOR · 02-10-2013, 12:34 PM

Alright folks, enough with the insults.

**QGator2414** · 02-10-2013, 01:20 PM

Oxymoron...

Non partisan event with DC politicians attending...

rivergator · 02-10-2013, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mocgator

The Wall Street Journal chimes in.

Carson for President

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...ditorialPage_h

For president based on one breakfast speech? He's hardly the first to favor a flat tax.

The_Graygator · 02-10-2013, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorAvatar

Level of immaturity being displayed here is amazing.

I'll remember that next time I'm called a gun-nut, a race-baiter, or a racist by a lib on these boards. lol

Btw, it was a joke, but I guess poitnging out how your 'savior' King Obama thinks he can just "off" anyone he wants with a drone is sort of a touchy spot with you libs.

You get what you vote for...

GatorAvatar · 02-10-2013, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Row6

It wasn't a "conservative" prayer breakfast, it was non-partisan prayer breakfast.

LMAO...semantics. Everyone knows this prayer breakfast is a conservative gathering.

GatorAvatar · 02-10-2013, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by chemgator

Why do you think he's partisan? He merely presented facts about politics, education, health care, and other topics, and proposed intelligent solutions. Yes, he seems to be a fiscal conservative, but that doesn't make him partisan--it makes him responsible. Are you saying that one of the political parties (i.e., the democrats) has fiscal irresponsibility as a main political platform? That's an interesting concept.

He did it at a FREAKING prayer breakfast. Get it? This is not a place to discuss policy but a prayer breakfast. Geez.

**g8orbill** · 02-10-2013, 02:31 PM

free speech avatar-since you admit to not being a Christian I am surprised you would use the not at a prayer breakfast excuse

rivergator · 02-10-2013, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorAvatar

He did it at a FREAKING prayer breakfast. Get it? This is not a place to discuss policy but a prayer breakfast. Geez.

The man can say what he wants. I'm not sure the protocol at a prayer breakfast, but I doubt that it's nothing but prayers ....
I just don't see the problem with the guy saying what he thinks.

GatorAvatar · 02-10-2013, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by g8orbill

free speech avatar-since you admit to not being a Christian I am surprised you would use the not at a prayer breakfast excuse

I was responding to the argument that he was not partisan...of course he was partisan.

GatorAvatar · 02-10-2013, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rivergator

The man can say what he wants. I'm not sure the protocol at a prayer breakfast, but I doubt that it's nothing but prayers ....
I just don't see the problem with the guy saying what he thinks.

Yea I agree...I was responding to the poster who says he was not partisan.

chemgator · 02-10-2013, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorAvatar

He did it at a FREAKING prayer breakfast. Get it? This is not a place to discuss policy but a prayer breakfast. Geez.

Obviously, he was praying that Obama would get his head out of his a$$ and start leading the country. What's wrong with that? It's pretty clear that he thought Obama could benefit from the wisdom of a simple doctor, backed up by facts. He was doing Obama a favor, by telling it to him straight. Should he pray that another 60 million children get added to a failed education initiative called Head Start? Does his message have to revolve around the president's agenda if the president is present? Or does it have to be all about vague prayers for health and world peace if it is a prayer meeting?