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tilly · 02-10-2013, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by gator85jd

^^^ This! I don't know why this is so difficult for some people to accept.

Well for starters...We don't all feel this way.

gatorr4life · 02-10-2013, 01:02 AM

The pressure was so bad here, he had to quit. I completely understand that. His family needed him and he needed them. I completely understand that too.... What frustrates me, is if it was so bad, WHY GO TO A PLACE WHERE THE PRESSURE IS THE SAME- IF NOT WORSE?! And what about his family? Honestly, as much as I hate to say it, I looked at him (at one point) as my favorite gator coach of all time. Mainly because Spurrier chose to come back to the SEC East, out of all places. Shame on me.

That being said, I still will always hold a special place for Meyer and Shelly. They're good people. They gave us everything they had. Which, as we know, was a lot. Tough situation but in the end, both the gator nation AND the Meyer family benefited.

tilly · 02-10-2013, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by gatorr4life

The pressure was so bad here, he had to quit. I completely understand that. His family needed him and he needed them. I completely understand that too.... What frustrates me, is if it was so bad, WHY GO TO A PLACE WHERE THE PRESSURE IS THE SAME- IF NOT WORSE?! And what about his family? Honestly, as much as I hate to say it, I looked at him (at one point) as my favorite gator coach of all time. Mainly because Spurrier chose to come back to the SEC East, out of all places. Shame on me.

That being said, I still will always hold a special place for Meyer and Shelly. They're good people. They gave us everything they had. Which, as we know, was a lot. Tough situation but in the end, both the gator nation AND the Meyer family benefited.

Sums it up very well.

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GATORAZ · 02-10-2013, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by gatorr4life

The pressure was so bad here, he had to quit. I completely understand that. His family needed him and he needed them. I completely understand that too.... What frustrates me, is if it was so bad, WHY GO TO A PLACE WHERE THE PRESSURE IS THE SAME- IF NOT WORSE?! And what about his family? Honestly, as much as I hate to say it, I looked at him (at one point) as my favorite gator coach of all time. Mainly because Spurrier chose to come back to the SEC East, out of all places. Shame on me.

That being said, I still will always hold a special place for Meyer and Shelly. They're good people. They gave us everything they had. Which, as we know, was a lot. Tough situation but in the end, both the gator nation AND the Meyer family benefited.

Because it is a great job and he is a competitive person.

gator85jd · 02-10-2013, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tilly

Well for starters...We don't all feel this way.

Dude...just stop. What's your freaking deal? Following me from thread to thread ...just to rip even the simplest of statements....makes you seem silly. Or like some weird stalker -- please get some help.

GatorAvatar · 02-10-2013, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tilly

Well for starters...We don't all feel this way.

But but but but he is RIGHT, so we should.all accept his point of view.

Spleezy · 02-10-2013, 03:45 AM

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But this makes it sound like perfection is the expectation...And no ones worshipping anyone.

Don't you find it funny how many people give credit to Strong, Tebow, Harvin etc...while ignoring who assembled them all together?

Urban does get full credit for who his coaches and players are....good and bad. Many seem to only want that one way. He assembled two Title teams and a 3rd 13-1 team that was crazy good. He gets total credit for that. Some down seasons will always fall into the picture.

Meyer raised UF's stock he then burned out and left us playing MIAC level football offensively. His #1 recruiting class was defense heavy and that showed the last couple years but his offensive recruiting was God awful...that has also shown.

No one is ignoring what Meyer did the two titles in 3 years was beyond impressive, 13-1 was a nice swan song for an awesome senior class but what proceeded was embarrassing and angering....You mean to tell me Les Miles can maintain a program better than Meyer in the SEC?? He won 2 MNC in 4 years yet never had years as putrid as UF did in 2010 and 2011.

The anger is all about how the program faltered after he left (both times) and the adoration for the 2 titles and amazing recruits he brought in. This thread is littered with posters who take both to extremes. People give Meyer credit just not the amount some of the fan boys would like everyone to shower upon him and some haters try to discount his entire 6 years because 'he lied' both stances are silly imho. Like it or not the good and the bad are a part of our history, people may pick and choose what they want to remember but Urban Meyer was a great coach who flamed out and left UF. Both seemed to have found themselves and are better for having shared 6 years.

UF can now recruit nationally on a larger scale, today's NFL is littered with endorsements of the programs success, and the financial benefits have afforded UF to expand it's athletic programs. Meyer was able to prove his system can work against the big boys and is now one of the biggest names in college football. My belief is both were better served going different directions but I like some other posters wish the road there didn't included 2010 and 2011 and the whole retirement/ESPN soap opera.

GatorAvatar · 02-10-2013, 03:55 AM

Unsubscribing from this nonsense Meyer Bashing thread.

Swampmaster · 02-10-2013, 08:43 AM

if spurrier had stayed at uf, he would have 2-3 more national titles by now, easy.

GatorSean · 02-10-2013, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by gator85jd

^^^ This! I don't know why this is so difficult for some people to accept.

Because pretty much every coach we've had in the modern era has either quit on us (and 'lied' in the process) or was fired. I'm not sure why that is so difficult to understand. The difference is Meyer was far more successful than almost every other coach we've ever had.

GatorSean · 02-10-2013, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Spleezy

No one is ignoring what Meyer did the two titles in 3 years was beyond impressive, 13-1 was a nice swan song for an awesome senior class but what proceeded was embarrassing and angering....You mean to tell me Les Miles can maintain a program better than Meyer in the SEC?? He won 2 MNC in 4 years yet never had years as putrid as UF did in 2010 and 2011.

After winning the NC in 2007, Miles went 8-5 in 2008 and 9-4 in 2009.

After winning the NC in 2008, Meyer went 13-1 in 2009 and 8-5 in 2010.

The fact of the matter is Meyer had ONE 'bad' year, in which he equaled the same record as Zook's best year. Stoops, Miles, Brown, Spurrier, and pretty much every other big time coach have had seasons where they 'only' won 8 games. So I think your embarrassment and anger is way out of whack with reality.

Spurffelbow833 · 02-10-2013, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorAvatar

Unsubscribing from this nonsense Meyer Bashing thread.

We'll catch up with you at the next one.

Tebowism0823 · 02-10-2013, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Swampmaster

if spurrier had stayed at uf, he would have 2-3 more national titles by now, easy.

So first twelve years he wins 1. The next 12 he wins 2-3 more? Ummm......not following your logic or reasoning on this one.

demosthenes · 02-10-2013, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Tebowism0823

So first twelve years he wins 1. The next 12 he wins 2-3 more? Ummm......not following your logic or reasoning on this one.

We have the best athletic director in the business. If he thought Spurrier would have performed at Meyer's level he would have hired him instead. While I loved Spurrier's time here I think Foley made the right choices in Meyer and Muschamp. Lord only knows how much pressure he was getting from Bull Gators back then to rehire Spurrier. I remember hearing from some an unheard of 5 million dollar salary to lure Spurrier back.

Lawdog88 · 02-10-2013, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorSean

After winning the NC in 2007, Miles went 8-5 in 2008 and 9-4 in 2009.

After winning the NC in 2008, Meyer went 13-1 in 2009 and 8-5 in 2010.

The fact of the matter is Meyer had ONE 'bad' year, in which he equaled the same record as Zook's best year. Stoops, Miles, Brown, Spurrier, and pretty much every other big time coach have had seasons where they 'only' won 8 games. So I think your embarrassment and anger is way out of whack with reality.

Of course, seeing the writing on the wall and the results of failed recruiting / coaching / team attitude dysfunction and demoralization, debacle in leaving / staying / cherry picking successor coming to fruition, Urbs bailed on UF for the 2011 season, thus avoiding another mediocre and / or losing season, which was salvaged to some degree by Coach Champ.

Whatever he "built" earlier, was left "broken" by his own admission. Kind of a meh trade-off, to me.

GATORAZ · 02-10-2013, 02:26 PM

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Of course, seeing the writing on the wall and the results of failed recruiting / coaching / team attitude dysfunction and demoralization, debacle in leaving / staying / cherry picking successor coming to fruition, Urbs bailed on UF for the 2011 season, thus avoiding another mediocre and / or losing season, which was salvaged to some degree by Coach Champ.

Whatever he "built" earlier, was left "broken" by his own admission. Kind of a meh trade-off, to me.

Florida won 2 NC under Urban and is now back in the picture for more NC's clearly the program wasn't that broken when he left.

tilly · 02-10-2013, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gator85jd

Dude...just stop. What's your freaking deal? Following me from thread to thread ...just to rip even the simplest of statements....makes you seem silly. Or like some weird stalker -- please get some help.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Go Gators!

Lawdog88 · 02-10-2013, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GATORAZ

Florida won 2 NC under Urban and is now back in the picture for more NC's clearly the program wasn't that broken when he left.

So the moral of the story is . . . Urban can't be believed when his lips are moving ?

raquetclub · 02-10-2013, 03:31 PM

As much as Spurrier talks about Saban, I wonder if some part of him doesn't wish he was back at Florida where he could more consistently get players to match Saban, and take back the title of King of the SEC.

gator85jd · 02-10-2013, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tilly

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Go Gators!

Actually, I was mocking you. But, as they say, ignorance is bliss. Enjoy!