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demosthenes · 02-09-2013, 02:52 PM

Right, the coach that turned three programs around and appears well on his way to a fourth was "lucky". Only a disingenuous person or an idiot would believe that.

tilly · 02-09-2013, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by demosthenes

Right, the coach that turned three programs around and appears well on his say to a fourth was "lucky". Only a disingenuous person or an idiot would believe that.

This.

Tebowism0823 · 02-09-2013, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Spurffelbow833

He has to beat Georgia for this to happen, starting with ditching the "it's just another game" stuff. We hate their sorry asses, and he's getting well paid to join the party. That's the price of coaching. Your highest loyalty has to be to who's paying you. If he goes 13-1 and wins a national championship, losing to Georgia will still irk the masses.

13-1 with a NC will please the masses. The fact that he states its just another game is because the media, and a select few here, like to bring up that he played there when its game week. Makes no sense whatsoever. You and the others are fooling yourselves if you think he doesn't want to beat them.

Any so called fan or alum who'd be upset with the scenario above would be crazy IMO.

tilly · 02-09-2013, 03:28 PM

My guess is when we beat the mutts he will be so fired up. He is just laying low to keep the story from being about him. He wants to beat them.

Tebowism0823 · 02-09-2013, 03:40 PM

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My guess is when we beat the mutts he will be so fired up. He is just laying low to keep the story from being about him. He wants to beat them.

Exactly. He was a Gator at heart and I believe he still is; especially now.

bionicgator · 02-09-2013, 04:03 PM

And look at how much SOS wants to kick our asses every single year and many consider him the greatest gator of them all.

regator · 02-09-2013, 04:08 PM

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And look at how much SOS wants to kick our asses every single year and many consider him the greatest gator of them all.

That's his job. Big deal.
It is muschamps job not to let him.

**jewood592** · 02-09-2013, 04:19 PM

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I doubt it, he won 1 in 12 years, he wouldn't have matched or exceeded Meyer's 2.

Spurrier managed to win "1" in a time where FSU finished #4 or better 14 years in a row, Nebraska rolled out some of the most dominant teams in the history of college football; and Miami was spitting out more NFL players than entire conferences.

gator85jd · 02-09-2013, 04:52 PM

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My point is... .he wasn't thought of that way by most of his players apparently... many here are basing everything on 2010...yet even then he had a historically ranked recruiting class. The claims that he quit...or broke the program fall silent when illuminated by the facts of the matter.
Look, read my post history on Urban. I hate the way he left...but..a lot of revisionists here.

If you think I'm going back to read your post history on anything, you apparently think I care about your opinion way, way more than I do. I'm basing it on what some of the players on the 2010 team said about him. But I forgot that you have a better perspective on what went on ini the locker room than the players do.

Do I think he was a good coach when he wanted to be? Sure. Do I think he ultimately quit trying? Yes. I swear, it's difficult to reason with some of the posters here.

Swampmaster · 02-09-2013, 07:01 PM

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You and the others are fooling yourselves if you think he doesn't want to be them.

He better start soon- the winner of that game wins the sec east

Jaggator · 02-09-2013, 07:09 PM

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He better start soon- the winner of that game wins the sec east

I think Spurrier & company would have something to say about that. S Carolina has beaten Georgia 3 years in a row. Also, we have to play at South Carolina this year so the SEC east may be decided in Columbia.

Lawdog88 · 02-09-2013, 07:56 PM

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I think that's fine.

But some here extrapolate that personal emotion into pretending Meyer isn't among the very best in the business. Which is insane.

I used to think that. I don't anymore. He may be able to construct something at OSU because of the gravitas of the institution, but I think he plateaued out at UF. And, I do think the prospect of having "down, rebuilding years" - without a Tim or Percy - was the real inner man issue. And of course, Nick is formidable and was in his head.

Call me crazy. No prob.

GATORAZ · 02-09-2013, 07:59 PM

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I used to think that. I don't anymore. He may be able to construct something at OSU because of the gravitas of the institution, but I think he plateaued out at UF. And, I do think the prospect of having "down, rebuilding years" - without a Tim or Percy - was the real inner man issue. And of course, Nick is formidable and was in his head.

Call me crazy. No prob.

Meyer is one of the best in the country coaches need good institution as well. Saban wasnt going to win any titles at Michigan State.

Lawdog88 · 02-09-2013, 08:02 PM

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Meyer is one of the best in the country coaches need good institution as well. Saban wasnt going to win any titles at Michigan State.

Your post doesn't make enough sense to be understood. Sorry.

GATORAZ · 02-09-2013, 08:12 PM

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Your post doesn't make enough sense to be understood. Sorry.

Sorry about that.
Meyer is one of the best coaches in the country. Coaches need good institutions to win football games. I think Meyer is a better coach now then he left Florida. To have years where we only recruited one DT is unacceptable and I think he realizes this now.

grizgator · 02-09-2013, 09:24 PM

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At some point why Spurrier abandoning us for money is better than Meyer leaving due to health concerns is going to have to be fully laid out.

And you base this BS on what? In have never seen any evidence that suggests that SOS is in it for the money alone and left UF only for money. That's crap. Let's remember, when SOS return to college football at USC, he intentionally took a lower salary than he could have gotten in order to have more money available to pay for his assistants. If he had wanted money, he could have held out for the LSU job.

Spurrier likes a challenge. Duke, UF (which was definitely a challenge when he took our program over), and then USC. He doesn't take the easy road.

demosthenes · 02-09-2013, 09:41 PM

I'm curious how you know he took the Duke job for a challenge instead of it being the best job he could get? Or the Florida job for a challenge instead of wanting to coach his alma mater? Or that he could of had the LSU job?

Tebowism0823 · 02-09-2013, 09:47 PM

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He better start soon- the winner of that game wins the sec east

Agreed. If you build it, they will come. My friend, Muschamp is building it and the titles will come.

Tebowism0823 · 02-09-2013, 09:51 PM

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And you base this BS on what? In have never seen any evidence that suggests that SOS is in it for the money alone and left UF only for money. That's crap. Let's remember, when SOS return to college football at USC, he intentionally took a lower salary than he could have gotten in order to have more money available to pay for his assistants. If he had wanted money, he could have held out for the LSU job.

Spurrier likes a challenge. Duke, UF (which was definitely a challenge when he took our program over), and then USC. He doesn't take the easy road.

I agree that Spurrier didn't leave over money. He left mainly because his ego told him he could conquer the NFL. He's a college coach and that's what he's the best at.

orangeblueorangeblue · 02-09-2013, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lawdog88

I used to think that. I don't anymore. He may be able to construct something at OSU because of the gravitas of the institution, but I think he plateaued out at UF. And, I do think the prospect of having "down, rebuilding years" - without a Tim or Percy - was the real inner man issue. And of course, Nick is formidable and was in his head.

Call me crazy. No prob.

That would have been a fair guess post-2010. But then he walked into a wretched situation at OSU and went undefeated. There are only a few coaches in America that can do that.

I expected Meyer to be a broken coach after he left here, but he's the same guy. He just didn't want to coach here anymore.