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truetarheelfan · 02-09-2013, 07:51 AM

guess who is not banned anymore yay... lol now has anyone been following Joel berry? I have suffice to say that flipping is probably not gonna happen. But I hear that you guys have some recipricated attn from the top pg in Tyus Jones. Can anyone tell me how true this rumor is, and if so how will he fit in your offense. Hope you guys get him I don't want him going to duke or ky

gatorbogey · 02-09-2013, 08:21 AM

what do you have to do to get banned around here??

oh this: welcome to the tarheel family joel... oh and fyi don't look for him to flip roy keeps recruiting even after a verbal and it is unlikely that a second rate bball program like fl will get berry to flip... plus he was made for our offense... but good luck you guys have a great team this yr enjoy it... you do recruit well donovan does more with less and i think he is a great coach in a bad basketball school have a nice day... haha joel flipping you people are a joke...

haha! yeah, i can see how that gets you shown the door

some compliments mixed in w/ insults. edit out the insults, fill them w/ something more substantial that relates to why UNC is better and you probably won't agitate.

personally, i don't mind what anyone says here. i used to travel around the internet and was banned quite alot myself. [nole fans on warchant didn't like what i had to say in regards to darnell dockett, for instance

] the problem is things can escalate out of control quite fast especially if you insult posters.

tilly · 02-09-2013, 01:24 PM

Ahhhh. TarHeel fans. I have lived amongst them for almost 20 years...in which time our "bad basketball school" has been as decorated as UNC...including a head to head win in a final four.

... All while enjoying a little thing called football too

dadx4 · 02-09-2013, 01:28 PM

I was banned from whorechant as well many years ago because I brought up the question of B. Bowden in that imo he was more interested in the all time win record more than he was the team. It wasn't long after that they let B Bowden "Retire."

truetarheelfan · 02-09-2013, 05:09 PM

yeah fl state fans can be a little touchy. i myself have been ousted for life from the warchant because our football team scored like 54 on them one yr. I know it isn't likely to happen again anytime soon so I had to gloat a little. Got me ousted. And I guess I should clarify when I say bad basketball school I don't mean your fans or your coach I really am talking about your facilities your pedigree. history lets look at it this way. there is a 5* recruit for football and he has UNC and Florida in his final two. The kids picks fl. of course me as a heel fan will be butt hurt. But why would he pick FL over UNC in football and we have had a couple of top ten teams that should have gotten bcs at large berths and didn't. The kid will undoubtedly have in his response somewhere the tradition and pedigree of Fl as deciding factors. FL will have a good program and does. but to say it is on UNC's level is not right. yes you have 2 national championships. So does unc in the past ten yrs. we also have 4 elite 8s and two final fours 4 regular and tourny championships 5 or six number one seeds in the tourney. so I would say no fl is not at the same level when you delve deeper into the stats and history. but that being said fl is a very good program and I really hope you get tyus jones. heck I hope you guys get randle. I have seen him play in person he is a beast took unc out because we will be so deep next yr with big men with meeks hicks johnson james and mcadoo someone would be the odd man out. I honestly think you guys are another big man away from another nat champ run. Randle fits that for you put him with young and you have one of the best 1-2 punches inside in the country. and def a top five preseason team as it stands. preseason top five should be ky how does cal get all that talent. wish there was an investigation on him. michigan if trey burke and co come back. unc.... matured talent and alot of very good new talent top center and 2nd best power forward pluas a very good pg Fl. thought you guys would get jabari hope young stays dook and kansas indiana will be in the mix as well. what do you think?

dalwood13 · 02-09-2013, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by truetarheelfan

yeah fl state fans can be a little touchy. i myself have been ousted for life from the warchant because our football team scored like 54 on them one yr. I know it isn't likely to happen again anytime soon so I had to gloat a little. Got me ousted. And I guess I should clarify when I say bad basketball school I don't mean your fans or your coach I really am talking about your facilities your pedigree. history lets look at it this way. there is a 5* recruit for football and he has UNC and Florida in his final two. The kids picks fl. of course me as a heel fan will be butt hurt. But why would he pick FL over UNC in football and we have had a couple of top ten teams that should have gotten bcs at large berths and didn't. The kid will undoubtedly have in his response somewhere the tradition and pedigree of Fl as deciding factors. FL will have a good program and does. but to say it is on UNC's level is not right. yes you have 2 national championships. So does unc in the past ten yrs. we also have 4 elite 8s and two final fours 4 regular and tourny championships 5 or six number one seeds in the tourney. so I would say no fl is not at the same level when you delve deeper into the stats and history. but that being said fl is a very good program and I really hope you get tyus jones. heck I hope you guys get randle. I have seen him play in person he is a beast took unc out because we will be so deep next yr with big men with meeks hicks johnson james and mcadoo someone would be the odd man out. I honestly think you guys are another big man away from another nat champ run. Randle fits that for you put him with young and you have one of the best 1-2 punches inside in the country. and def a top five preseason team as it stands. preseason top five should be ky how does cal get all that talent. wish there was an investigation on him. michigan if trey burke and co come back. unc.... matured talent and alot of very good new talent top center and 2nd best power forward pluas a very good pg Fl. thought you guys would get jabari hope young stays dook and kansas indiana will be in the mix as well. what do you think?

Comparing Florida Basketball to North Carolina Football has got to be a joke, right?

gator7_5 · 02-09-2013, 06:20 PM

Not even a funny one.

tilly · 02-09-2013, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by truetarheelfan

I should clarify when I say bad basketball school I don't mean your fans or your coach I really am talking about your facilities

I live in NC and hear this silly stuff all the time. People cant accept that we are ARE a hoops powerhouse, that has for this generation been as good as anybody. Ignorance is bliss. Our hoops facility (photos below) is hardly 'BAD" ....Try again:

Interior to get a facelift soon as well:

tilly · 02-09-2013, 06:50 PM

Carolina's "Great" facility;

tilly · 02-09-2013, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by truetarheelfan

but to say it is on UNC's level is not right. yes you have 2 national championships. So does unc in the past ten yrs. we also have 4 elite 8s and two final fours 4 regular and tourny championships 5 or six number one seeds in the tourney. so I would say no fl is not at the same level when you delve deeper into the stats and history.

Again...your wrong. In the past 10 years we have the exact same resume.

Same number of elite 8's
Same number of Final Fours.
Same Number of National Titles.

The only thing UNC has is a longer history, which means nothing when comparing where the programs are today. Lets also mention that We are way better THIS season as well.

We will admit that our national presence only began in 1994. But a recruit was probably born in 1994 or later. 18 years old. Thats how old most freshman are. Here is what Florida basketball has done in their lifetime:

Florida since 1994:

2 National Championships.
3 National championship games.
4 Final Fours.
6 Elite 8's
7 sweet 16's
14 NCAA Tournaments
7 SEC Titles (combined)

...oh and there are no LOSING seasons on our resume.

This is 2013. We are a top level program. With beautiful facilities and a hall of fame coach....who's still very young by the way.

Were fine thanks.

gatorbogey · 02-10-2013, 05:41 AM

i wouldn't expect to win recruits in football if UNC wins a couple of Nat'l championship titles then effectively matches what we do for the next half decade afterward - i'd count them as solid contenders/threats, especially if they had a hall-of-fame type coach. of course winning a couple of titles will put a coach in the HoF.

it's true, in terms of hoops history - prior to 1990, we don't have equal history. not even close. but the recruits today grew-up seeing Florida winning crystal and making runs in the ncaa's. we do need to improve in the area of fan following, i will concede. might be a matter of the economy, but we're not at the same level as UK, KU, UNC and a few others in that regard. we don't set up vacation around UF basketball like UK fans do. don't flock to the SEC-T on the 1st day like they do, etc. so in the recruiting battles for the very elite recruit, we do lose out.

ncbullgator · 02-10-2013, 06:33 AM

We have had better teams than UNC the last 6 out of ten years and the last two out of three years.

And I live in Raleigh and watch a lot of UNC games live.

GatorLurker · 02-10-2013, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by gatorbogey

what do you have to do to get banned around here??

oh this: [i]welcome to the tarheel family joel... oh and fyi don't look for him to flip roy keeps recruiting even after a verbal and it is unlikely that a second rate bball program like fl will get berry to flip...

I think that he meant Ranked #2, not second rate.

gatorbogey · 02-10-2013, 09:19 AM

Gators went to the elite 8 the last 2 years. i don't know how you would miss that fact unless you have a serious issue w/ extreme myopia.

btw, we know all about losing most of the team (following our back2back national titles, we basically had to start anew). you lose some continuity where senior players help to groom the newcomers etc.

i think you might be the first person to ever say/think our baseball facilities are superior - especially compare to our basketball facilities.

dalwood13 · 02-10-2013, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by truetarheelfan

No I meant exactly what I wrote... you can all hammer me and thats fine but I notice that no one wants to mention that I also cited prestige and history as well as tradition.... all things that seperate fl football program from unc when it comes to fetting the star recruit...fyi there hasnr been a losing season we were 20-17 that yr so at least do your research and no 2 of the last three yrs you did not have a better team. Two straight elite 8's with kenall and harrison barnes. Johm henson and tyler zeller say other wise. I dont remember seeing fl in any of those. Elite eights. Yes you do have a great basketball scool.now.butninhave been to gainsville and seen your facilities and while nice... they are not anything near ur football or even baseball facilities. Yes we are having a down yr but if u lost 4 playees to the 1st round of the nba draft all starters and your pg who probanly shouldnt have gone. You would probanly be in the same situation. Look at ky heck ucla is dtill trying to recover miami will lose their whole stsrting five and a lot of their bemch production... they are a very good team this yr... 7 seniors on rhat team. Sverage age is 23 unc had a hostory of telling kids if they r lottery picks to go. Tried to get hansbrough to go after his frshman and sophmore yr because he was projected as a lottery pick both yrs. Told lawson and ellington to go because they were both projected as lottery picks. With top talent comes high turnover its why I hate the 1 and done... the last trully grest teAM IN BBALL WAS THAT 09 UNC TEAM BEFORE THAT IT WAS THOSE TWO FL TEAMS. But college bball as a whole is down vecause the one and done...so yes unc is struggling this yr... but lets be honest u guys have the better team this yr. But the past 2 yrs werent even close . Unc would have beaten u both yrs.

First off, in 2001-2002, UNC went 8-20. Secondly, Florida was in the last two Elite Eights and minutes away from the Final Four in both. Our coach is better. Our facilities are better. I don't believe that you've ever seen our basketball facilities if you are questioning that. Do your research.

NorthCaptivaGator · 02-10-2013, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by truetarheelfan

No I meant exactly what I wrote... you can all hammer me and thats fine but I notice that no one wants to mention that I also cited prestige and history as well as tradition.... all things that seperate fl football program from unc when it comes to fetting the star recruit...fyi there hasnr been a losing season we were 20-17 that yr so at least do your research and no 2 of the last three yrs you did not have a better team. Two straight elite 8's with kenall and harrison barnes. Johm henson and tyler zeller say other wise. I dont remember seeing fl in any of those. Elite eights. Yes you do have a great basketball scool.now.butninhave been to gainsville and seen your facilities and while nice... they are not anything near ur football or even baseball facilities. Yes we are having a down yr but if u lost 4 playees to the 1st round of the nba draft all starters and your pg who probanly shouldnt have gone. You would probanly be in the same situation. Look at ky heck ucla is dtill trying to recover miami will lose their whole stsrting five and a lot of their bemch production... they are a very good team this yr... 7 seniors on rhat team. Sverage age is 23 unc had a hostory of telling kids if they r lottery picks to go. Tried to get hansbrough to go after his frshman and sophmore yr because he was projected as a lottery pick both yrs. Told lawson and ellington to go because they were both projected as lottery picks. With top talent comes high turnover its why I hate the 1 and done... the last trully grest teAM IN BBALL WAS THAT 09 UNC TEAM BEFORE THAT IT WAS THOSE TWO FL TEAMS. But college bball as a whole is down vecause the one and done...so yes unc is struggling this yr... but lets be honest u guys have the better team this yr. But the past 2 yrs werent even close . Unc would have beaten u both yrs.

We were Elite 8 the last two years

Enjoy the NIT

truetarheelfan · 02-10-2013, 09:27 AM

Sorry for mispellings using a phone this morning waiting for church to startgood day to all

REM08 · 02-10-2013, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by truetarheelfan

No I meant exactly what I wrote... you can all hammer me and thats fine but I notice that no one wants to mention that I also cited prestige and history as well as tradition.... all things that seperate fl football program from unc when it comes to fetting the star recruit...fyi there hasnr been a losing season we were 20-17 that yr so at least do your research and no 2 of the last three yrs you did not have a better team. Two straight elite 8's with kenall and harrison barnes. Johm henson and tyler zeller say other wise. I dont remember seeing fl in any of those. Elite eights. Yes you do have a great basketball scool.now.butninhave been to gainsville and seen your facilities and while nice... they are not anything near ur football or even baseball facilities. Yes we are having a down yr but if u lost 4 playees to the 1st round of the nba draft all starters and your pg who probanly shouldnt have gone. You would probanly be in the same situation. Look at ky heck ucla is dtill trying to recover miami will lose their whole stsrting five and a lot of their bemch production... they are a very good team this yr... 7 seniors on rhat team. Sverage age is 23 unc had a hostory of telling kids if they r lottery picks to go. Tried to get hansbrough to go after his frshman and sophmore yr because he was projected as a lottery pick both yrs. Told lawson and ellington to go because they were both projected as lottery picks. With top talent comes high turnover its why I hate the 1 and done... the last trully grest teAM IN BBALL WAS THAT 09 UNC TEAM BEFORE THAT IT WAS THOSE TWO FL TEAMS. But college bball as a whole is down vecause the one and done...so yes unc is struggling this yr... but lets be honest u guys have the better team this yr. But the past 2 yrs werent even close . Unc would have beaten u both yrs.

Apparently you're not just forgetting Florida's last two elite eights but the "truly great" team that won it all last year as well.

This discussion of comparing programs is dumb. When people talk about all time great programs, they list UNC but don't list Florida. Its because history/fanbase and perception (as a basketball school) favor UNC right now (although their fanbase is overrated). However, Florida has been every bit as relevant recently and only has to keep this up to move up into the top group of basketball "powerhouses."

gatorbogey · 02-10-2013, 09:59 AM

you really never know what the future holds - especially w/ the possibilities of 'one and dones' etc. so hill may come here and be gone in a year leaving a big void at point guard. i'd expect us to continue to recruit barry for that reason and step up the recruitment of others like lyle and jones. don't know if others emerge too during their senior year in h.s. at the various positions of potential need like point guard.

ncbullgator · 02-10-2013, 10:31 AM

Hey TarHeel boy.

According to the ESPN experts, the top five basketball programs from 2000-2009.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4783700

UF is number 3.

Now considering we are three for three making the tourney this decade with two elite eights, I would say the Gators are easily one of the top five ball programs in the country.

Enough said.