Spurrier zings The Liar

[regator]

Originally Posted by socraticsilence

At some point why Spurrier abandoning us for money is better than Meyer leaving due to health concerns is going to have to be fully laid out.

Spurrier was never about the money.
He walked away from $15 million at the redskins.
He gave thousands to the uf woman's tennis program.
He gave part of his salary to his assistants

[DuPontGator]

I appreciate what Meyer did. I just never liked the guy. He was fake and just unlikable. IMO. Blast away Meyer lovers.

[GatorAvatar]

Originally Posted by DuPontGator

I appreciate what Meyer did. I just never liked the guy. He was fake and just unlikable. IMO. Blast away Meyer lovers.

blast away?

[regator]

Originally Posted by DuPontGator

I appreciate what Meyer did. I just never liked the guy. He was fake and just unlikable. IMO. Blast away Meyer lovers.

This.
Meyer is a great coach.
I just like spurrier as a man more.
Also meyer lost to more unranked teams in his six years than spurrier by a long shot.
Spurrier lost to one in 12 years that ended up ranked at the end of the year.
That is incredible IMHO
Winning nc has allot of luck involved.
Competing at a high level for a extended period of time does not

[geauxgator1]

Originally Posted by DuPontGator

I appreciate what Meyer did. I just never liked the guy. He was fake and just unlikable. IMO. Blast away Meyer lovers.

That's kind of how most people feel about Mr Meyer, i do beleive.

[Tipmoose]

Originally Posted by GatorSean

Just out of curiosity, how does harboring this animosity help you or anyone else? You're certainly free to do and feel as you please, but it seems like this waste of energy over someone who didn't do you any direct harm what-so-ever, and over the course of his entire tenure, was a great benefit to the program we all cheer for.

It doesn't provide me any direct benefit other than knowing I'm keeping his lies public instead of letting them be glossed over and forgotten. The absolute most I can hope for is that perhaps a recruit will see my sig at some point and think through exactly what Meyer said and did while he was here and apply that to what he's saying and doing at OSU.

Meyer brought us two NCs. Yes. But in the process he completely broke our program. And then, instead of sticking around to fix it, he came back for a half-assed season to audition his buddy for the HC job. Then he left again, with the program in even worse shape to 'spend more time with his family'. His family, evidently, believed him too, as his daughter was adamant that 'He will NOT be the next coach at OSU". Oh, and along the way he pocketed that 1 million dollar bonus from Foley.

Im angry enough that he lied to us and how he went about leaving. But to lie to your family too? Such a man needs to be held in contempt. And that's just what I'm doing.

[gator85jd]

Originally Posted by Tipmoose

It doesn't provide me any direct benefit other than knowing I'm keeping his lies public instead of letting them be glossed over and forgotten. The absolute most I can hope for is that perhaps a recruit will see my sig at some point and think through exactly what Meyer said and did while he was here and apply that to what he's saying and doing at OSU.

Meyer brought us two NCs. Yes. But in the process he completely broke our program. And then, instead of sticking around to fix it, he came back for a half-assed season to audition his buddy for the HC job. Then he left again, with the program in even worse shape to 'spend more time with his family'. His family, evidently, believed him too, as his daughter was adamant that 'He will NOT be the next coach at OSU". Oh, and along the way he pocketed that 1 million dollar bonus from Foley.

Im angry enough that he lied to us and how he went about leaving. But to lie to your family too? Such a man needs to be held in contempt. And that's just what I'm doing.

Excellent post. Too many people in sports have pushed character aside. Meyer is a liar. Was he effective while he was here? Yes - for the most part. Does that excuse his lying?

[GatorSean]

Originally Posted by Tipmoose

It doesn't provide me any direct benefit other than knowing I'm keeping his lies public instead of letting them be glossed over and forgotten. The absolute most I can hope for is that perhaps a recruit will see my sig at some point and think through exactly what Meyer said and did while he was here and apply that to what he's saying and doing at OSU.

Meyer brought us two NCs. Yes. But in the process he completely broke our program. And then, instead of sticking around to fix it, he came back for a half-assed season to audition his buddy for the HC job. Then he left again, with the program in even worse shape to 'spend more time with his family'. His family, evidently, believed him too, as his daughter was adamant that 'He will NOT be the next coach at OSU". Oh, and along the way he pocketed that 1 million dollar bonus from Foley.

Im angry enough that he lied to us and how he went about leaving. But to lie to your family too? Such a man needs to be held in contempt. And that's just what I'm doing.

He 'completely broke the program', but yet just one year after he left we are back in the top 10.

Have you completely forgotten all the good he did for the program? He did FAR more than just bring in 2 NCs. Or do none of these things count for some reason?

Friday Night Lights - that was a Meyer creation. Still lives on today. Helped the program immensely, and is now copied by most other major teams around the nation.

Heavener Football Complex - Another Meyer idea. Not only did he think of it, but he personally lead the fundraising efforts to fund it all. Have you seen it? Do you remember what it was like before??

Inviting former players to the sideline - It was insane we weren't doing this before.

Ring of Honor - Again, Meyer wanted to honor the past to strengthening the program in the future. It's a great addition to our tradition.

'The Promise' plaque - Meyer wanted to make Tebow's words immortal so future generations of Gators could see a piece of the Tebow legacy.

Singing with the band after victories - Another tradition that Meyer brought in that lives on today.

The Gator Walk - and yet another tradition Meyer brought in that lets the fans meet and greet the players before each home game.

And all of this and I didn't even mention the two national championships, the complete domination of our rivals, and a program high GPA and graduation rate among players. So exactly how did he brake the program? Yes, I know he said it himself, but since you keep repeating it, you must know what he meant, right?

Exactly what lies did he tell his family? He did in fact, spend more time with them. He never said he would never coach again. And by all indications, he's been keeping his promises to them at OSU. And either way, I really don't see how what happens between him and his family is ANY of your business.

And the way you guys cry about the $1million is comical. First of all, do you have any idea how much money the program got as a result of Meyer's success? We are coming out far FAR ahead even after the $1million.

And secondly, if you have a problem with the bonus, isn't your problem with Foley, and not Meyer? You guys act like Meyer stole the money from us when in fact, his boss gave it to him. Are we supposed to believe you guys wouldn't expect a bonus payment from your boss even if you didn't deserve it?

[DuPontGator]

Originally Posted by GatorSean

He 'completely broke the program', but yet just one year after he left we are back in the top 10.

Have you completely forgotten all the good he did for the program? He did FAR more than just bring in 2 NCs. Or do none of these things count for some reason?

Friday Night Lights - that was a Meyer creation. Still lives on today. Helped the program immensely, and is now copied by most other major teams around the nation.

Heavener Football Complex - Another Meyer idea. Not only did he think of it, but he personally lead the fundraising efforts to fund it all. Have you seen it? Do you remember what it was like before??

Inviting former players to the sideline - It was insane we weren't doing this before.

Ring of Honor - Again, Meyer wanted to honor the past to strengthening the program in the future. It's a great addition to our tradition.

'The Promise' plaque - Meyer wanted to make Tebow's words immortal so future generations of Gators could see a piece of the Tebow legacy.

Singing with the band after victories - Another tradition that Meyer brought in that lives on today.

The Gator Walk - and yet another tradition Meyer brought in that lets the fans meet and greet the players before each home game.

And all of this and I didn't even mention the two national championships, the complete domination of our rivals, and a program high GPA and graduation rate among players. So exactly how did he brake the program? Yes, I know he said it himself, but since you keep repeating it, you must know what he meant, right?

Exactly what lies did he tell his family? He did in fact, spend more time with them. He never said he would never coach again. And by all indications, he's been keeping his promises to them at OSU. And either way, I really don't see how what happens between him and his family is ANY of your business.

And the way you guys cry about the $1million is comical. First of all, do you have any idea how much money the program got as a result of Meyer's success? We are coming out far FAR ahead even after the $1million.

And secondly, if you have a problem with the bonus, isn't your problem with Foley, and not Meyer? You guys act like Meyer stole the money from us when in fact, his boss gave it to him. Are we supposed to believe you guys wouldn't expect a bonus payment from your boss even if you didn't deserve it?

Too much to comprehend.

[beanfield]

Originally Posted by rpmGator

Without Meyer, we would still be behind the Noles in National Titles...

The thing both Spurrier and Meyer have in common, they went somewhere else to coach when the fan base noise got so stupid to think we would never have a loss.

Meyer is the best coach Florida ever had, and all you have to do is look in the trophy case to see why.

And we gave him (meyer) the perfect vehicle to achive it...but he is what he is.....

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Originally Posted by DuPontGator

I appreciate what Meyer did. I just never liked the guy. He was fake and just unlikable. IMO. Blast away Meyer lovers.

I think that's fine.

But some here extrapolate that personal emotion into pretending Meyer isn't among the very best in the business. Which is insane.

[GatorAvatar]

Originally Posted by GatorSean

He 'completely broke the program', but yet just one year after he left we are back in the top 10.

Have you completely forgotten all the good he did for the program? He did FAR more than just bring in 2 NCs. Or do none of these things count for some reason?

Friday Night Lights - that was a Meyer creation. Still lives on today. Helped the program immensely, and is now copied by most other major teams around the nation.

Heavener Football Complex - Another Meyer idea. Not only did he think of it, but he personally lead the fundraising efforts to fund it all. Have you seen it? Do you remember what it was like before??

Inviting former players to the sideline - It was insane we weren't doing this before.

Ring of Honor - Again, Meyer wanted to honor the past to strengthening the program in the future. It's a great addition to our tradition.

'The Promise' plaque - Meyer wanted to make Tebow's words immortal so future generations of Gators could see a piece of the Tebow legacy.

Singing with the band after victories - Another tradition that Meyer brought in that lives on today.

The Gator Walk - and yet another tradition Meyer brought in that lets the fans meet and greet the players before each home game.

And all of this and I didn't even mention the two national championships, the complete domination of our rivals, and a program high GPA and graduation rate among players. So exactly how did he brake the program? Yes, I know he said it himself, but since you keep repeating it, you must know what he meant, right?

Exactly what lies did he tell his family? He did in fact, spend more time with them. He never said he would never coach again. And by all indications, he's been keeping his promises to them at OSU. And either way, I really don't see how what happens between him and his family is ANY of your business.

And the way you guys cry about the $1million is comical. First of all, do you have any idea how much money the program got as a result of Meyer's success? We are coming out far FAR ahead even after the $1million.

And secondly, if you have a problem with the bonus, isn't your problem with Foley, and not Meyer? You guys act like Meyer stole the money from us when in fact, his boss gave it to him. Are we supposed to believe you guys wouldn't expect a bonus payment from your boss even if you didn't deserve it?

This!!!!!

[gator85jd]

Originally Posted by beanfield

And we gave him (meyer) the perfect vehicle to achive it...but he is what he is.....

True. When he knew his gig was up at Utah, he looked at the talent on the roster at Notre Dame and the talent on the roster at UF. He chose the program that offered him the best chance to win quickly. We also paid him quite well. He was a hired gun -- nothing more, nothing less. When his gig at UF was up, he lied to his family, he lied to Gator Nation and the world and got out.

[KronoGator]

Originally Posted by socraticsilence

At some point why Spurrier abandoning us for money is better than Meyer leaving due to health concerns is going to have to be fully laid out.

How about Spurrier saying that 12 years coaching in the SEC was enough, he's about to start year 21, but he's not a liar, he just changed his mind

[phatGator]

Originally Posted by gator85jd

I can only pray that CWM leaves like a man if he ever decides to leave. I can only pray that CWM doesn't hold a press conference to tell Gator Nation that he will never throw some other school's colors on his shirt and go coach somewhere else if he knows it's a possibility -- although I think that convinced JF to give Urbie the unearned million dollar retention bonus.

I am continually amazed that so many people cannot comprehend the context of that statement. The very next action he took after making that statement was PUTTING ON GATOR COLORS. Is that so difficult to understand? He lived up to that statement. It was not a promise forever and he did not leave for a whole year later. He didn't start coaching again until a year after that.

[phatGator]

Originally Posted by gator85jd

True. When he knew his gig was up at Utah, he looked at the talent on the roster at Notre Dame and the talent on the roster at UF. He chose the program that offered him the best chance to win quickly. We also paid him quite well. He was a hired gun -- nothing more, nothing less. When his gig at UF was up, he lied to his family, he lied to Gator Nation and the world and got out.

Please tell us an example of one bona fide, documented, proven LIE. Not something you just think, not rumor, not changing direction a year or more later. Nothing vague. Not that colors comment that gets taken out of context. Please give us one undeniable lie that UM told.

[gator85jd]

Originally Posted by phatGator

I am continually amazed that so many people cannot comprehend the context of that statement. The very next action he took after making that statement was PUTTING ON GATOR COLORS. Is that so difficult to understand? He lived up to that statement. It was not a promise forever and he did not leave for a whole year later. He didn't start coaching again until a year after that.

“I made this clear to Jeremy Foley, if I am able to go coach, I want to coach at one place, the University of Florida. It would be a travesty, it would be ridiculous to all of a sudden come back and get the feeling back, get the health back, feel good again and then all of a sudden go throw some other colors on my shirt and go coach? I don’t want to do that. I have too much love for this University and these players and for what we’ve built.”

How exactly is this being taken out of context? To claim this is taken out of context is absurd, Shelly. And apparently I missed the one year time limit he put on his loyalty. I guess he had to spread the BS deep to get JF to throw the $1 million retention bonus his way. The guy is a liar, plain and simple. How's the weather in Columbus?

[Swampmaster]

meyer -- a good run at fla with the 2 titles--but, he never intended to stay long term---he was waiting for his dream job

[gatordavisl]

Originally Posted by Swampmaster

not an amazing 6 year run--he won 2 titles, choked in the SEC title game in 2009, and had mediocre or bad teams the other 3 years.

Optimal genius level post of the thread. After all, there are hoards of coaches and teams that had better runs during those six years.

[gatordavisl]

Originally Posted by Tipmoose

he completely broke our program.

And this is just one of the many reasons your thread sucks.