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Row6 · 02-08-2013, 07:59 AM

Judicial review should be required before targeting, but I have no problem with getting Alawaki. Regrettable collateral damage is probably less using drones than sending troops.

DaveFla · 02-08-2013, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Row6

Judicial review should be required before targeting, but I have no problem with getting Alawaki. Regrettable collateral damage is probably less using drones than sending troops.

Waterboarding = UNACCEPTABLE

Blowing the human being, and all those who are unfortunate enough to be near him, into smithereens = ACCEPTABLE

my got the mind of your average liberal sure seems contradictory...

**gatorman_07732** · 02-08-2013, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Row6

Judicial review should be required before targeting, but I have no problem with getting Alawaki. Regrettable collateral damage is probably less using drones than sending troops.

Judicial review? What the hell are you talking about? There is only one person and one person only that can authorized a strike and that is the president.

cocodrilo · 02-08-2013, 01:57 PM

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There is only one person and one person only that can authorized a strike and that is the president.

And that depends on how much the CIA has on him. (On the president, not the target.)

**RealGatorFan** · 02-09-2013, 12:49 PM

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Remember when liberals used to oppose actions like this? You know, before the President authorizing this type of action was from their party.

Read that doc again. Did Bush authorize this on American shores? No he did not. This new document gives the go-ahead to use drones in our own back yards. As long as you do as you are told, you have nothing to worry about.

g8trjax · 02-09-2013, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveFla

Waterboarding = UNACCEPTABLE

Blowing the human being, and all those who are unfortunate enough to be near him, into smithereens = ACCEPTABLE

my got the mind of your average liberal sure seems contradictory...

What you need to remember is lib dems are intellectually incapable of making a mistake. Just leave it in their hands. I promise, you will sleep better tonight.

DaveFla · 02-09-2013, 02:43 PM

That's fine... It's the silence of the press that concerns me.

Bush could do no right... Obama can do no wrong. Pretty soon, even Obama will think he can get away with anything, knowing the press won't question him.

JerseyGator01 · 02-09-2013, 02:57 PM

Tina Brown of Newsweek stated Bush would have been impeached by now if this happened under his watch. The double standard continues ...

rivergator · 02-09-2013, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveFla

That's fine... It's the silence of the press that concerns me.

Bush could do no right... Obama can do no wrong. Pretty soon, even Obama will think he can get away with anything, knowing the press won't question him.

didn't NBC break the story?

DaveFla · 02-09-2013, 03:19 PM

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didn't NBC break the story?

I don't know, did they? It's hard to tell since they dropped so quickly. Had this occurred under Bush, we ALL know it would be on the front page, and the lead story every hour in the press.

In fact, the waterboarding story WAS front page news for weeks and weeks, and this is potentially MUCH worse than water boarding. Yet, the press seems mysteriously quiet.

**vertigo0923** · 02-09-2013, 03:37 PM

Is this "much worse" than holding people without trial in secret prisons all over the world?

DaveFla · 02-09-2013, 03:45 PM

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Is this "much worse" than holding people without trial in secret prisons all over the world?

Alive versus blown into 1,000,000 pieces along with a dozen or so innocent people?

Hell yes, it's MUCH worse...

rivergator · 02-09-2013, 03:48 PM

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I don't know, did they? It's hard to tell since they dropped so quickly.

I can't help you if you don't read the thread or the story that started it.

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Had this occurred under Bush, we ALL know it would be on the front page, and the lead story every hour in the press.

In fact, the waterboarding story WAS front page news for weeks and weeks, and this is potentially MUCH worse than water boarding. Yet, the press seems mysteriously quiet.

yeah, but bush, yeah but bush ....

**vertigo0923** · 02-09-2013, 04:51 PM

Since nameless people were held prisoner in an unknown quantity and some were tortured, Dave, how do you know they all lived to tell the story, huh?

**vertigo0923** · 02-09-2013, 04:55 PM

Also, about the "but bush" thing. He was the most recent republican president, therefore, his admin is still up for discussion, same way we were still hearing about bill clinton during the bush admins time in office, and for real, next time there's a republican in office, you guys will still be talking about the previous Dem admin. And you know it.

cocodrilo · 02-09-2013, 06:26 PM

Has there ever been a president that we can't blame something on?

How about George Washington? The worst I've heard about him was when he shoved the family outhouse into the river when he was a kid. His daddy gave him a spanking. George said, "But Daddy, you didn't spank me when I chopped down the cherry tree." His daddy said, "I wasn't in the cherry tree."

GatorAvatar · 02-10-2013, 03:58 AM

Bush started using drones in 2002. He killed Americans in foreign countries but no-one knew about it. Why is this a big deal now? Cause the black guy is doing it?

**LittleBlueLW** · 02-10-2013, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorAvatar

Bush started using drones in 2002. He killed Americans in foreign countries but no-one knew about it. Why is this a big deal now? Cause the black guy is doing it?

I searched for documentation of Americans killed by drones under Bush and found none. The Yemeni strike under BO keeps popping up. Apparently you are the only one with this info?

Do you have a link supporting your above claim?

DaveFla · 02-10-2013, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorAvatar

Bush started using drones in 2002. He killed Americans in foreign countries but no-one knew about it. Why is this a big deal now? Cause the black guy is doing it?

I have no problem with Obama doing it. It's the hypocrisy of those like you who bitched about Bush using drones to take out terrorists "without due process" yet find no problem with Obama's "kill list" and authorizing the killing of Americans.

I mean, how can you possibly justify your blatent double standard?

Row6 · 02-10-2013, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveFla

Waterboarding = UNACCEPTABLE

Blowing the human being, and all those who are unfortunate enough to be near him, into smithereens = ACCEPTABLE

my got the mind of your average liberal sure seems contradictory...

Beginning with the Third Geneva Conference in 1929 and continuing through several other international agreements to which the US is a signor, killing hundreds of thousands of people in times of war is acceptable under the Geneva Accords. Torturing captured combatants is not.