02-07-2013, 05:47 PM
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Is the president ok?
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02-07-2013, 05:53 PM
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#62
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Heisman Finalist
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Originally Posted by TheRaid
Is the president ok?
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He's totally baked
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02-07-2013, 06:02 PM
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#63
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All SEC
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Location: Viera, FL
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Originally Posted by gator2109
He may not legally be charged but it's pretty obvious he was smoking it as well or would have been if the joint had not made it to him. CWM should treat it as him being fully charged with possession so either way he is on a thin line with this and knows the consequences.
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Sounds like you have a future in law enforcement. Nevermind the facts
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02-07-2013, 06:06 PM
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All SEC
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Location: Atlanta, Georgia
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Originally Posted by swampbabe
Sounds like you have a future in law enforcement. Nevermind the facts 
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I never said anything about the law. The case won't stick because of the evidence and how it was handled. I never said the charges should be upheld because I think he was there to get high.
However, a football team and your status on that team is not the US justice system so it doesn't really matter.
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02-07-2013, 06:09 PM
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Gator Country Diamond
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Originally Posted by Minister_of_Information
Well, evidently you CAN read since you answered my post, so why don't you direct your attention to gatorev's post and get back to me.
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You quoted and responded to my post. Perhaps paying attention better next time will help.
My attention was on you, not rev.
Now my attention is moving elsewhere, as you have become tedious and boring to me. lol
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02-07-2013, 06:12 PM
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Gator Country Diamond
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Originally Posted by gator7_5
No, he's not. This isn't even worthy of a first strike, he shouldn't have even been cited.
He does need to reconsider traveling in a car with weed, though.
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Yes, it is. This is the kind of stuff that becomes a bigger problem if it goes unaddressed, and let me point this out one more time... or have we forgotten what happened within this team in the 2010 and 2011 seasons?
I don't care how good a player is, make better decisions. I'm not saying Louchez needs to be tossed for this, but if he should be held accountable for poor decisions.
I trust Coach Muschamp to make the right call on this, but if this happens again, bye-bye IMO.
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02-07-2013, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by The_Graygator
Crazy talk? Because you say it is? lol
Have you forgotten the 2010 and 2011 seasons already? This non-discipline attitude was one of the main reasons for those struggles those seasons. I don;t care how good a player is, they should all be held accountable IMO.
If all this is true, then Louchez gets this oen chance to redeem himself, and if he does this agin, BOOM!, he's gone.
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What about doing a voluntary drug test on him and if he has no weed in his system, let it slide, if he does, then strike 1? Makes more sense than jumping the gun.
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02-07-2013, 06:13 PM
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Gator Country Diamond
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Originally Posted by GATORAZ
if he gets in trouble again for something like this he will get a suspension but wont be kicked off the team
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Most likely, as long he wasn't the one who owned the dope, then that's another story.
I trust CWM to make th right decision, but I wouldn't let the same player get in this same trouble again without serious repercussions either. Janoris Jenkins rings a bell.
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02-07-2013, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by scamgtr
With all due respect Gray, because you are a well-respected poster, this is a very weak case. The arrest affidavit bears this out. He may be guilty of not choosing friends wisely, but Daniel Webster could not even pin this on him.
The State is saying he possessed the cannabis. I cannot find where he possessed it in the Arrest Affidavit. State has to prove possession beyond a reasonable doubt. Typically, to establish possession one has to have the ability to control the said substance. In this case the arrest affidavit states that it was in the front seat near the driver. As a prosecutor you would have to say that Mr. Purifoy had control of the substance. As a practical matter, if he is in the back seat how could he have controlled it when the substance was sitting next to another person. They also found no residue on him as they did the other passenger. Officer X also said that the other passenger threw out the cannabis cigarette. Officer X did not state anywhere in the Arrest Affidavit that he ever saw Mr. Purifoy possess any of the substance, or throw the cigarette out the window, or that he had any residue on his person.
If I am his defense attorney, all I need to establish is reasonable doubt. Based upon these facts, there is reasonable doubt here. You establish there were others present in the car and where the marijuana was found. Then you ask the final question of Officer X, "Did you see Mr. Purifoy possess the baggie, the marijuana cigarette, did he have any marijuana residue on his person?" The answer would be no based on what he wrote in the Arrest Affidavit. If he changes his testimony from what is in the Arrest Affidavit he looks like a liar because why did he not include that information at first. As a practical matter, there is a higher probability that others were in control of it. The very facts would implode this case in a bench trial, much less in front of a jury.
In my opinion, this is what happened in reality- no one in the car made incriminating statements. Therefore, Officer X got upset no one would cop to it. Therefore, he charged all three because he could not pin it on any one of them. At best, it is a sign of an inexperienced an non-confident LEO that needs a refresher in the basics of what is needed to prove one of the most common cases he works with; at worst he is an egomaniac that lets his pride get in the way of his better judgement. He should have stuck with the Driver and the Front Seat Passenger and clearly articulated his reasons for doing so (e.g., Driver had baggie next to him on the front seat; it was within his radius of control as he would not have had to move to move to grab it and I saw the lit cannabis cigarette tossed out of the passenger window by Front Seat Passenger where Front Seat Passenger was sitting, I recovered the cigarette and established from its smell and my Law Enforcement training that it was cannabis).
Many times officers take short cuts with things of this nature, they charge people with crimes that cannot be proven all the time. They create unnecessary extra work for judges, clerks, secretaries, prosecutors, defense attorneys and the jails. These may seem like trivial points, but arresting people that you cannot prove the case on is a huge waste of time and resources that should be devoted to crimes that the State can actually prove. This is not an isolated case and cases like these add up over the course of a year. Moreover, you are impacting a person's freedom and reputation. I am not against law enforcement per se, but in my opinion and legal experience; this case is a dog and I think that it reflects poorly on the officer's judgement. You don't arrest a person to make a point or because you are angry that the Defendant is not making your job easier.
This may show bad judgement on Mr. Purifoy's part, but who knows; maybe he needed a ride or maybe he had some other good reason he was with these guys. Sometimes there are not obvious reasons why people get caught up in these situations.
Therefore, based on what I read here, Champ should have a come to Jesus meeting with Mr. Purifoy and make him do some considerable stadiums for this lapse in judgement; but this is certainly not a case where he should be a criminal defendant.
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I also said Louchez is worthy of a second chance and that I trust CWM to make the right decision when he has all the facts.
I agree with the the "come to Jesus" meeting 100% too.
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02-07-2013, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by LAGatorDoc
What about doing a voluntary drug test on him and if he has no weed in his system, let it slide, if he does, then strike 1? Makes more sense than jumping the gun.
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Omigod. A voice of reason on Gatorcountry.
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02-07-2013, 06:18 PM
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Gator Country Diamond
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Originally Posted by ArtDeco
Omigod. A voice of reason on Gatorcountry.
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I like his suggestion too.
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02-07-2013, 06:34 PM
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Heisman Winner
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Whether or not you agree with the current laws on pot - the fact remains as of TODAY....it is ILLEGAL and Purifoy is GUILTY by association!
Further this makes him look REALLY stoopid. I mean who in their right mind would go somewhere in a car with pot smokers? After midnight. DUH!
I love his competitive fire on the field but I've also seen him taunting the opposition only to get burned the very next play (against the Dawgs).
Now that's pretty stoopid as well.
I trust Coach Muschamp to handle it the right way but I have to say this chit has to stop - even if we cut loose every player that pushes the wrong envelope.
DUMB DUMB DUMB!!!
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02-07-2013, 06:37 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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I do not think weed is a big deal, personally. However, if it is against the rules for work, school, whatever then you need to avoid it. Rules are rules until they are changed. Right now, this is just plain stupidity.
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02-07-2013, 06:40 PM
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Im sure the AJC will hold the main byline for this story, no matter how legit.
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02-07-2013, 06:41 PM
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All SEC
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When charges are dismissed, will ESPN run that on the crawler?
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02-07-2013, 06:49 PM
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I'm your huckleberry
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: In my prime
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Graygator
You quoted and responded to my post. Perhaps paying attention better next time will help.
My attention was on you, not rev.
Now my attention is moving elsewhere, as you have become tedious and boring to me. lol
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That sounds like fun, I don't recommend it. We all know what "fun" leads to.
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02-07-2013, 07:08 PM
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Good grief. Pick better friends
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02-07-2013, 07:09 PM
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I'm your huckleberry
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: In my prime
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Originally Posted by g8r925
Good grief. Pick better friends
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Bear in mind that he is in college, and he would be picking from amongst college students.
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02-07-2013, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by FearNoSpear
I'm so sick of the witch hunt on weed. I dont smoke but what do i care if someone does? I'm also tired of the hypocrisy of some law enforcement officers.
I fish in tournaments with law enforcement officers who get sh!t faced while operating their boats and drive away hammered only to go home and rest up to hypocritically hunt down those who do the same the following weekend. Enter one of these county Sheriff tournaments one time and observe. They are worse offenders than any other tournament I fish in. Especially the Marion County guys in the annual redfish tournament out in crystal river. I wish Citrus County would set up a DUI check for them like Marion does for gator fans on 441 after home games.
4 friends of mine who are sheriffs deputies smoked more weed than the 2008 National Championship team back in our day and brag about busting the kids they catch today. They are punks. Who the hell wants to grow up and be a professional tattle tail anyway?
Spare me on how all of these guys are heroes just for being on the force. Sure you have one on occasion but for the most part they don't protect and they don't serve. They document the mess after it happens and go to extremes to catch their neighbors in harmless offenses that they themselves commit. Like *gasp* speeding!
They care more about each other than those that pay for their glorified easy a$$ jobs. Don't believe me? If someone kills a citizen they do what they can. If someone kills a cop every deputy is out there trying to find the guy. Even if it was a freaking police dog. Then they hold press conferences to flaunt the fact that one of them is more important than one of you if you unfortunately ever happened to be a victim.
Reputations are earned. If cops don't want people to have negative opinions of them then they need to start a campaign to clean up their image and quit antagonizing the public. If they did as much I'd embrace them and respect them again like I did when I was a naive kid.
I realize that a lot of what I wrote wont be popular. My opinion isn't changing and I respectively disagree with anything contradictory to my sentiment. For the record I've never been arrested nor has anyone in my family. I've never committed a serious crime (sure I've sped) and I've never lost a loved one to a criminal. I'm just observant.
My apologies to the very few that actually are good intentioned law enforcement officers who joined for the right reasons and conduct themselves accordingly.
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Wow.
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02-07-2013, 07:13 PM
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Heisman Candidate
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Location: United States
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He was just celebrating his move to WR. "If I want to be like Percy, I must do as Percy does."
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