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Old 02-04-2013, 04:06 PM   #1
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:12 PM   #2
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Look at Lunardi's brackets....how do the current no.1 and no.2 ranked teams, UF and IU, end up in the same regional bracket?
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:18 PM   #3
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Look at Lunardi's brackets....how do the current no.1 and no.2 ranked teams, UF and IU, end up in the same regional bracket?
I noticed that. But he explains in this video that he thinks Florida will coast while Indiana loses a couple more:

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Old 02-04-2013, 04:33 PM   #4
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LOL, look at the West bracket for Duke. Are you serious? That should be the bracket for the number 1 overall. Not one team in that bracket scares me.

Louisville, Indiana, NC State (who when healthy can play with most anyone), even Pitt when they play well....those are tough teams.

Interesting. It goes back to the other thread where someone asked if we would rather go out West. Not sure we wouldn't if those were the brackets.
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:39 PM   #5
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I think on paper you could look at a particular bracket and say so and so gets an easy road, but in reality, in the tournament, there are always upsets, and it would not shock me that Ole Miss could get hot and beat Duke...same for Arizona, for obvious reasons. I actually like the East except for Indiana.
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Osiris......thanks for posting the updates

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Old 02-04-2013, 05:09 PM   #7
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Jerry Palm has us as a 2-seed LOL.
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I'd love to see those brackets. Remember last time Duke and Arizona faced off in the tournament in Southern California? <iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/5jMy9zMCUIk?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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Old 02-04-2013, 05:12 PM   #9
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Jerry Palm has us as a 2-seed LOL.
If based soley on today, he's had some of what Snoop has in your profile pic.
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What interested me the most regarding those Ratings is simply the magnitude of the difference between the Gators and the #2 school in each one.

Then compare that with the differences among the next several teams. Looking at this one sees that UF has roughly the same advantage over the #2 team in each of those, as the #2 team has over the #5 or 6 teams, except for ESPN where the Gap is only from 2 to 4 to be as great as 1 to 2, and Sagarin, where it is only from roughly 2 to 4.

Anyway, in all, the Gators stand above.

Of course, this stuff only deals with measurable phenomena, which doesn't incorporate numerous important factors.
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If based soley on today, he's had some of what Snoop has in your profile pic.
Hahaha. Yes indeed. He got roasted pretty bad on twitter for it to. Saying UF 1-2 vs RPI top25 and the SEC being so weak were his points.

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Old 02-04-2013, 05:30 PM   #12
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we would have Butler in our path, wouldn't we! linardi is thinking like the selection committee on that one.
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Old 02-04-2013, 05:37 PM   #13
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3 SEC in top 30. Pathetic.
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Here's Massey's Ratings. Gators have been #1 here for several weeks. Also, like Kenpom you can click on a team and it gives a projected score and percentage of chance to win or lose future games.

http://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=2625&s=193573
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I am so glad that Lunardi doesn't actually make the brackets.

UF as a 1 is fine. Indiana as a 2 is insane and as a 2 matched with what is probably the overall #1 is double insane.

Pitt as an 8 is also a crime. They are at least a 3 seed.
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I see that Kentucky if in the top 20 in two out of the three which doesn't surprise me. Right now I believe they are the team which will give the Gators the toughest run for their money in the SEC.
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Yes.

Nerlens Noel will disrupt our O. That is a big problem. He pretty much erases the low post game unless we have refs that will make calls against him. That is not a given.

And for some reason opposing players rush shots against NN instead of first faking. That ain't working. It is time to try something new.

Our D will be fine. UK is actually easy to guard if you have the one-on-one defenders that Florida has.

If we are shooting OK from 3 we will be fine, but if the team takes an off night it could be a nail biter.
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Ken Pom's most recent blog has a statement that Florida's ratings are unrealistic.

I emailed him to ask the question: Why do you say this?

Is it that your own algorithm is flawed? So, how do you fix this?

Is it a regression to the mean? If so, show me the really bad games.

Is it an "eye-ball" test that the Gators don't have multiple lottery picks?

I am still waiting for an answer.
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Yes.

Nerlens Noel will disrupt our O. That is a big problem. He pretty much erases the low post game unless we have refs that will make calls against him. That is not a given.
Refs lately seem to be giving him the star treatment re: benefit of doubt on fouls.

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And for some reason opposing players rush shots against NN instead of first faking. That ain't working. It is time to try something new.
He's skinny, I don't know why bulky post players aren't using their body against him. At least bang him around, wear him out even if you don't take a shot.
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Ken Pom's most recent blog has a statement that Florida's ratings are unrealistic.

I emailed him to ask the question: Why do you say this?

Is it that your own algorithm is flawed? So, how do you fix this?

Is it a regression to the mean? If so, show me the really bad games.

Is it an "eye-ball" test that the Gators don't have multiple lottery picks?

I am still waiting for an answer.
I can guarantee its mean reversion. That doesn't mean we aren't the best team.
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