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02-02-2013, 09:11 AM
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So you are saying it would be improper, assuming you are not married, that you went back to school and randomly met a lady in the library, grocery store, or match.com and then you found out she's a member of the faculty at the school. And of course assuming she has a 0% chance of ever teaching you.
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No I'm not saying that. My point is that Applewhite cheated in an area concerning his personal morals. Is anyone prepared to say that an extramarital affair is not cheating? I'm saying the university has a legitimate concern over this person's behavior because he has been entrusted with the development of young impressionable students. Additionally, he has a responsibility to represent the university to the community in an upstanding manner and having an extramarital affair with a student, even if it's not one of his students, does not fulfill that.
As to conflict of interest, doesn't him having a position of importance and power and fame and recognition in the UT football program, among the most revered institutions in the entire state, suggest an improper use of such status?
It falls on him to make the right decision in these situations. I have no doubt they occur with some regularity. He has to walk away because he is in the position of power due to the enormous status of the office the University of Texas has given him.
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02-02-2013, 09:14 AM
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I knew this would turn into a political thread, what does Bill Clinton have to do with it ?Its not like he left his wife when she was dying of cancer(Newt Gingrich)
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It's not a political thread and was not going in that direction. You might as well call it an historical thread because that was the extent of my reference.
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02-02-2013, 09:23 AM
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No big deal, IMO. If she had anything to do with the football program it would be a problem but university employees dating current students happens all the time; i.e., grad students students becoming TA's. Im sure the wives and husbands of some grad assistants, lecturers, administrative people, ect. are earning degrees at the university. I wont say the university has no interest. If hes going downtown getting hammered and chasing undergrads that reflects poorly on the program. But an affair with someone over 21 isnt a big deal, IMO.
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02-02-2013, 09:30 AM
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No I'm not saying that. My point is that Applewhite cheated in an area concerning his personal morals. Is anyone prepared to say that an extramarital affair is not cheating? I'm saying the university has a legitimate concern over this person's behavior because he has been entrusted with the development of young impressionable students. Additionally, he has a responsibility to represent the university to the community in an upstanding manner and having an extramarital affair with a student, even if it's not one of his students, does not fulfill that.
As to conflict of interest, doesn't him having a position of importance and power and fame and recognition in the UT football program, among the most revered institutions in the entire state, suggest an improper use of such status?
It falls on him to make the right decision in these situations. I have no doubt they occur with some regularity. He has to walk away because he is in the position of power due to the enormous status of the office the University of Texas has given him.
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You think these kids are going to be affected by him cheating? You realize most of the kids are doing their own thing already. I agree the cheating part is unacceptable but to act like these are 12 year kids being coached is being naive. These are adults in college.
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02-02-2013, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Tebowism0823
You think these kids are going to be affected by him cheating? You realize most of the kids are doing their own thing already. I agree the cheating part is unacceptable but to act like these are 12 year kids being coached is being naive. These are adults in college.
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If I am naive then that must make your thoughts sophisticated and wisdom based. I don't see it that way.
This is your argument: Everybody is doing it so there is no need to have integrity.
Is that really what you want to say? Is that really how the University of Texas should approach it's mission and conduct itself?
I really hope you are not a teacher.
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02-02-2013, 10:10 AM
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The article actually doesn't say whether the student was a she or a he.
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02-02-2013, 10:14 AM
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i bet he does not get fired like the track coach. texas never wanted this to get out
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02-02-2013, 10:19 AM
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One post alluded to the student possibly being a trainer which would make sense since it was during bowl week. If that's the case my opinion on the issue would change since he'd be in a position of power in the athletic department where the student worked.
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02-02-2013, 11:01 AM
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Another rumor...yes, rumor, cuz it's a message board was that Applewhite's wife was nine months prego...last time I check (and have experienced) is that OBs will say that if you want to have your baby come at the due date is to start having MORE relations with your wife during this time...
BUT, WE NEED PICS! WHY IS THE BEVO FORUM NOT ON THIS LIKE THEY WERE WHEN WE GOT MUSCHAMP FROM THEM!
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02-02-2013, 11:15 AM
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I'd guess that it was not the first and only time he cheated on his wife, just the time he got caught.
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02-02-2013, 11:26 AM
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This thread and story is useless without pics. Too bad we'll probably never know
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We summon thee.
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02-02-2013, 12:12 PM
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02-02-2013, 12:19 PM
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02-02-2013, 12:23 PM
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Really???
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02-02-2013, 12:27 PM
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Not a very smart thing for him to do.
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02-02-2013, 12:34 PM
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Definitely not an upgrade if that pic is correct. SMH
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02-02-2013, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Chompsuey
Definitely not an upgrade if that pic is correct. SMH
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Is is condonable if it was an "upgrade" then?
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02-02-2013, 02:10 PM
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Not being a married man. Just stating a fact. It was in reference to "really". Are you the moral police?
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02-02-2013, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Go2gtr
If I am naive then that must make your thoughts sophisticated and wisdom based. I don't see it that way.
This is your argument: Everybody is doing it so there is no need to have integrity.
Is that really what you want to say? Is that really how the University of Texas should approach it's mission and conduct itself?
I really hope you are not a teacher.
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Is that how you fight an argument by just making things up? You can pretend to sit on some pedestal if it makes you feel better but I doubt you are any better then anybody here. You're naive because you're CLUELESS to what a coaches job is. If he wasn't married this isn't even an issue. The fact that he is married is what makes it wrong. You can sit there and try and throw your pathetic attempts at humor and question my morals all you want. I could care less what you hope I am or what I'm not. Please point out where my argument is everybody else is doing it. You can't because I never said that.
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02-02-2013, 02:55 PM
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Not being a married man. Just stating a fact. It was in reference to "really". Are you the moral police?
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Yes, that's exactly what I am. You've found me. I troll these boards looking for poor misguided souls who need immediate and extensive moral re-focussing.
I'll turn myself in now.
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