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sleeze · 02-01-2013, 11:47 AM

If the Moss guys would take the time to read the article a poster put up a few posts back....then you would get the players opinion. Guys that played against both.

CHFG8R · 02-01-2013, 12:24 PM

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The Sanders versus Emmitt is another interesting debate. If you are asking who was the best pure runner, that's easy, Sanders. He was the human pinball and did things out on the field that just left you in jaw-dropped amazement. But ask who was the better football player and who I'd rather build a team around, that was Emmitt. Need a back to pick up a blitzing linebacker, Emmitt was one of the best. Need a release valve on passing plays that can not only catch, but pick up needed yards? Again, who better than Emmitt? Sanders? He'd have runs that only he could have turned into a positive, but Emmitt was the more complete player.

Moss has more athletic potential than perhaps anyone who has ever played wide receiver. But if I'm building a team from scratch, I'd take Rice (and several others) over Moss in a heartbeat. Rice is just a more complete football player. Hands down, no contest.

Thing that always struck me about Emmitt (like Payton) is that he ALWAYS GAINED POSITIVE YARDAGE. Always.

RayUF07 · 02-01-2013, 01:06 PM

This still going?

Jaggator · 02-01-2013, 01:29 PM

Tilly tried to end it with post #240 but it lives on. Just think we have 7 more months of this.

tilly · 02-01-2013, 02:42 PM

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Tilly tried to end it with post #240 but it lives on. Just think we have 7 more months of this.

Good news is....Its the longest running thread in two years not to be aimed at any of our former coaches.

WESGATORS · 02-01-2013, 02:50 PM

So we all agree then:

(1) Moss
(2) Owens
...
(X) Rice

(such that X > 2)

Go GATORS!
,WESGATORS

GATORAZ · 02-01-2013, 03:10 PM

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If you HAVE to tell the public you are the best......it usually means your not.

this makes absolutely no sense

tilly · 02-01-2013, 03:34 PM

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this makes absolutely no sense

It makes total sense. Wayne Gretzky says hello.

secgator · 02-01-2013, 03:47 PM

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this makes absolutely no sense

You ARE joking, right? Seriously?

It typifies Moss spot on. Makes perfect sense.

GATORAZ · 02-01-2013, 03:52 PM

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You ARE joking, right? Seriously?

It typifies Moss spot on. Makes perfect sense.

see what you just did?

GATORAZ · 02-01-2013, 03:55 PM

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It makes total sense. Wayne Gretzky says hello.

GATORAZ · 02-01-2013, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tilly

It makes total sense. Wayne Gretzky says hello.

JohnC1908 · 02-01-2013, 04:42 PM

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this makes absolutely no sense

And neither does ignoring every shred of evidence on the field but have at it.

**OaktownGator** · 02-01-2013, 04:47 PM

If Moss had just said greatest deep threat ever, there wouldn't be all this debate. He is that.

He's just not the great receiver.... which requires a helluva lot more than being a deep threat.

GATORAZ · 02-01-2013, 05:03 PM

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And neither does ignoring every shred of evidence on the field but have at it.

who is doing that?

demosthenes · 02-01-2013, 05:42 PM

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If Moss had just said greatest deep threat ever, there wouldn't be all this debate. He is that.

He's just not the great receiver.... which requires a helluva lot more than being a deep threat.

Agreed. I thought the article with the formers players was very illuminative on the topic. Most seemed to have respect for Moss but as a one trick pony.

secgator · 02-01-2013, 05:54 PM

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see what you just did?

Yepper I sure do. I nailed your buddy Moss to the floor based on the other poster's statement. IF indeed your idol Moss was really the greatest, he wouldn't feel the need to brag about it and make his claim. His actions would be more than sufficient--exactly what the REAL greatest WR did. Let his body of work on the field speak his case. Quietly and adequately enough for the entire world to know who is the best.

Moss has lots of talent, but no drive-no work ethic-no concept of what a "team" means--and not nearly the measure of greatness Rice has. Oh yeah, not to mention the consensus of pretty much everyone else on this planet.

So yes--I see and know precisely what I did. Thanks.

NoahBeanBizzel · 02-01-2013, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AzCatFan

The Sanders versus Emmitt is another interesting debate. If you are asking who was the best pure runner, that's easy, Sanders. He was the human pinball and did things out on the field that just left you in jaw-dropped amazement. But ask who was the better football player and who I'd rather build a team around, that was Emmitt. Need a back to pick up a blitzing linebacker, Emmitt was one of the best. Need a release valve on passing plays that can not only catch, but pick up needed yards? Again, who better than Emmitt? Sanders? He'd have runs that only he could have turned into a positive, but Emmitt was the more complete player.

Moss has more athletic potential than perhaps anyone who has ever played wide receiver. But if I'm building a team from scratch, I'd take Rice (and several others) over Moss in a heartbeat. Rice is just a more complete football player. Hands down, no contest.

Sorry, I don't agree. Emmitt was a great running back, but there are others who could've done what he did behind arguably the greatest line ever. I'm not convinced that he comes close to that record without Newton, Allen, Smith, etc...blocking for him. If you put Sanders in Dallas, and Smith in Detroit, this wouldn't even be a debate. It wouldn't even be talked about on message boards.

Smith played on one of the most complete offenses to ever be fielded in pro football. Sanders played with Lomas Brown....and a collection of nobodies.

antny · 02-01-2013, 06:01 PM

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The difference is you cited the most well respected boxer of all time who also happened to claim he was the greatest himself. He is acknowledged outside of his own opinion as being the greatest by a huge consensus.

Deion may have called himself the greatest but again, like randy moss, that doesn't make it true. Best cover corner sure but he couldn't or wouldn't hit so his self proclaimed title , like Randy's, is just his own

GATORAZ · 02-01-2013, 06:50 PM

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The difference is you cited the most well respected boxer of all time who also happened to claim he was the greatest himself. He is acknowledged outside of his own opinion as being the greatest by a huge consensus.

Deion may have called himself the greatest but again, like randy moss, that doesn't make it true. Best cover corner sure but he couldn't or wouldn't hit so his self proclaimed title , like Randy's, is just his own

who was a better corner than Deon in the modern era? Moss is acknowledge as one of the best WR ever as well.