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[ArtVandelay]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

I love your tolerance...right on brother

I have equal tolerance for everyone and believe that everyone should be treated equally (except those than have done something illegal and have given up that right)

I believe in common sense and common courtesy.

Speaking of tolerance...I guess you don't support my right to have an opinion on this since you don't like what my opinion is. Is that a correct assumption?

[Dreamliner]

Originally Posted by ArtVandelay

So you can spout what I consider non-sense and it's okay, but if I have an opinion that you don't agree with, then I am disrespectful and a liberal?

I didn't find your comment off-putting in the least. But that's probably because I consider grown-up germs like yourself amusing.

[MichiGator2002]

Originally Posted by Dreamliner

That you've missed such a prominent, arguably central strain of his teaching is instructive. And you're probably the type who can read, say, Matthew 16:27-28 and project "some of you standing here will not taste death" interminable thousands of years into the future.

Not that I don't admire the creativity and flexibility.

So based on that alone, it turned out the second coming was kept secret from all history and that the promised fruit of the kingdom was this craphole we call the world. Sounds legit.

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by ArtVandelay

I have equal tolerance for everyone and believe that everyone should be treated equally (except those than have done something illegal and have given up that right)

I believe in common sense and common courtesy.

Speaking of tolerance...I guess you don't support my right to have an opinion on this since you don't like what my opinion is. Is that a correct assumption?

Your opinion does not come across as respectful by any stretch of the imagination. In fact it comes across as degrading. Hey, I get that religious bigotry is in vogue in certain circles

[ArtVandelay]

Originally Posted by Dreamliner

I didn't find your comment off-putting in the least. But that's probably because I consider grown-up germs like yourself amusing.

Says the person who has roughly 75% of his/her posts as attempts as being funny...

[ArtVandelay]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

Your opinion does not come across as respectful by any stretch of the imagination. In fact it comes across as degrading. Hey, I get that religious bigotry is in vogue in certain circles

So because I don't believe that things are as you say they are, my opinions are religious bigotry?

I am sorry that you feel my beliefs are degrading. I'm sure that I feel a lot of what you believe to be true as degrading.

I respect your right to feel how you do, as long as you don't try to preach and pass it along as if it is fact and there is no other possible explanation for things.

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by ArtVandelay

So because I don't believe that things are as you say they are, my opinions are religious bigotry?

I am sorry that you feel my beliefs are degrading. I'm sure that I feel a lot of what you believe to be true as degrading.

I respect your right to feel how you do, as long as you don't try to preach and pass it along as if it is fact and there is no other possible explanation for things.

And I respect your right to be disingenuous

[scrappygator]

If Jesus has already come back, where is he?
And for the record where is the Ark of the Covenant and Joseph Smith's stuff?

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by scrappygator

If Jesus has already come back, where is he?
And for the record where is the Ark of the Covenant and Joseph Smith's stuff?

I can assure you scrap that Jesus has not come back, if he did every living being would know

[ArtVandelay]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

And I respect your right to be disingenuous

Actually, I am as genuine as they come.

You do know there are people out there that don't believe in Jesus and/or God the way you do and some that don't believe in Jesus and/or God at all.

Are you okay with that?

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by ArtVandelay

Actually, I am as genuine as they come.

You do know there are people out there that don't believe in Jesus and/or God the way you do and some that don't believe in Jesus and/or God at all.

Are you okay with that?

Oh yeah that easter bunny and santa post was awesomely pretty smart ass

[Dreamliner]

Originally Posted by MichiGator2002

So based on that alone, it turned out the second coming was kept secret from all history and that the promised fruit of the kingdom was this craphole we call the world. Sounds legit.

Now it looks like you're just angry and disillusioned with Jesus like the Pharisees were.

[Dreamliner]

Originally Posted by ArtVandelay

Says the person who has roughly 75% of his/her posts as attempts as being funny...

But I'll bet you have to stifle a chuckle at least 75% of the time.

[ArtVandelay]

Originally Posted by Dreamliner

But I'll bet you have to stifle a chuckle at least 75% of the time.

Is that 75% of all of your posts or 75% of the 75% (thus 56.25%) where you are trying to be funny?

[MichiGator2002]

Originally Posted by Dreamliner

Now it looks like you're just angry and disillusioned with Jesus like the Pharisees were.

If there was one idea I would think I could get any Christian to agree with... or any non-Christian, even. That I could get even the harshest atheist to agree with, if they would concede, arguendo, that the Gospel is a true and accurate account. That idea would be that Jesus' promised return would be neither ambiguous nor underwhelming.

The fundamental flaw in preterism is that it requires, core belief, that the second coming was entirely ambiguous and completely underwhelming, so much so that nobody felt inclined to jot it down or tell the neighbors about it.

[Dreamliner]

Originally Posted by ArtVandelay

Is that 75% of all of your posts or 75% of the 75% (thus 56.25%) where you are trying to be funny?

It's a win-win for me. Either it's working better than half the time, and you're just not admitting it, or you're just a fuddy-duddy, philosophical equivalent of a pickup truck driver.

[ArtVandelay]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

Oh yeah that easter bunny and santa post was awesomely pretty smart ass

It was over the top, but I was making a point about my beliefs in general.

You dismiss them because it doesn't go along with what you believe.

What if I am offended by some of your beliefs?

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

I can assure you scrap that Jesus has not come back, if he did every living being would know

How can you assure this? How can you assure that Jesus ever existed?

These are beliefs and opinions.

If I believe otherwise, that makes me a religious bigot and degrading?

[gatorman_07732]

Originally Posted by ArtVandelay

It was over the top, but I was making a point about my beliefs in general.

You dismiss them because it doesn't go along with what you believe.

What if I am offended by some of your beliefs?



How can you assure this? How can you assure that Jesus ever existed?

These are beliefs and opinions.

If I believe otherwise, that makes me a religious bigot and degrading?

It's called something you lack, faith

[ArtVandelay]

Originally Posted by gatorman_07732

It's called something you lack, faith

I have faith in plenty of things.

Your faith in what you have stated is just that...faith. Its not absolute and it doesn't mean you are right and that others are wrong. Doesn't mean I am right. These are just opinions. I am tolerant of your opinions as long you don't try to shove them down my throat or claim that they are 100% fact.

Not sure why you can't be tolerant of my opinions. I don't really care either way if you are or what you think about me. I was just making the point about you not being tolerant. If that is how you choose to live, that is fine with me.

We can just agree to disagree.

[wargunfan]

Originally Posted by ArtVandelay

I have equal tolerance for everyone and believe that everyone should be treated equally (except those than have done something illegal and have given up that right)

I believe in common sense and common courtesy.

Speaking of tolerance...I guess you don't support my right to have an opinion on this since you don't like what my opinion is. Is that a correct assumption?

What you posted was not simply an opinion. It was a slur and was disrespectful of the deeply held faith of many posters here. And you knew that when you posted it. These kinds of insults won't gain you any respect on this board.