Flouridegate: An American Tragedy

[WESGATORS]

Just curious, but how many of you who buy the fluoride conspiracy mock global warming conspiracies (and vice versa)?

The tidbit on Idaho was very interesting; I had no idea.

Go GATORS!
,WESGATORS

[MichaelJoeWilliamson]

Originally Posted by exiledgator

Maybe the OP has had a, "loss of essence."

But I'm sure women sense his power, I'm sure he, uh, doesn't avoid women.

Mandrake, do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk... ice cream? Ice cream, Mandrake, children's ice cream!

A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.

Well, I, uh... I... I... first became aware of it, Mandrake, during the physical act of love.

Women uh... women sense my power and they seek the life essence. I, uh... I do not avoid women, Mandrake.

But I... I do deny them my essence

[wgbgator]

As some posters have pointed out, the stakes on a Flouride conspiracy seem so low in comparison to Global Warming.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

30% of this country's freshwater supplies have flouride levels that exceed any water flouridation levels.

In other words, nature is worse than flouridation in many cases.

Which isn't to denigrate the idea that these levels of flouride aren't harmful, just that if it's so it's probably been that way for most of the world for most of humanity.

[Lawdog88]

I do not deny my essence.

[Gatorrick22]

All you guys that think this is funny - laugh when your thyroid gland stops working properly because of all the fluorine you've ingested. Look up the thyroid, Iodine, fluorine and chlorine connection.

Cancer is a hell of a disease.

[ChartsandGrafs]

It's amazing that people even debate this topic.

50 reasons to oppose fluoridation:

1) Fluoride is the only chemical added to water for the purpose of medical treatment. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) classifies fluoride as a drug when used to prevent or mitigate disease (FDA 2000). As a matter of basic logic, adding fluoride to water for the sole purpose of preventing tooth decay (a non-waterborne disease) is a form of medical treatment. All other water treatment chemicals are added to improve the water’s quality or safety, which fluoride does not do.

2) Fluoridation is unethical. Informed consent is standard practice for all medication, and one of the key reasons why most of Western Europe has ruled against fluoridation. With water fluoridation we are allowing governments to do to whole communities (forcing people to take a medicine irrespective of their consent) what individual doctors cannot do to individual patients.

Put another way: Does a voter have the right to require that their neighbor ingest a certain medication (even if it is against that neighbor’s will)?

3) The dose cannot be controlled. Once fluoride is put in the water it is impossible to control the dose each individual receives because people drink different amounts of water. Being able to control the dose a patient receives is critical. Some people (e.g., manual laborers, athletes, diabetics, and people with kidney disease) drink substantially more water than others.

http://www.fluoridealert.org/articles/50-reasons/

[orangeblueorangeblue]

I think the real issue is that this is largely done without much input from the populace. Ultimately, though, you're going to get flouride in your water one way or another.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

There's more fluoride ppm in the water of the santa fe river & feed springs than any water fluoridation program in Florida provides.

[ChartsandGrafs]

Nobody here is wringing their hands over naturally occurring deposits of fluoride in many water sources, just like nobody is wringing their hands over naturally occurring strains of bacteria and fecal matter in many water sources. This is very well understood, so there's no need to continually erect this straw man.

The real issue is government UNNECESSARILY ADDING alleged medicinal compounds to municipal water supplies in an effort to indiscriminately mass medicate the population. I think this should be abundantly clear by now.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

It's not a strawman, and I agree that fluoride shouldn't be added to water without consent.

My point was directed at those who believe that it's causing some horrific health issues in this country.

[OaktownGator]

Soylent Green.

[Skittlebrau]

Originally Posted by MichaelJoeWilliamson

Mandrake, do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk... ice cream? Ice cream, Mandrake, children's ice cream!

A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.

Well, I, uh... I... I... first became aware of it, Mandrake, during the physical act of love.

Women uh... women sense my power and they seek the life essence. I, uh... I do not avoid women, Mandrake.

But I... I do deny them my essence

IMMEDIATELY came to mind. Hard to not laugh out loud reading that scene (and the OP's thread). Anytime that movie is on, I must watch it.

[Skittlebrau]

Originally Posted by Lawdog88

I do not deny my essence.

So damn funny...

[baygator1]

Originally Posted by wgbgator

I blame the Flouride Industrial Complex. And Flo Rida.

Heelarryus.

[QGator2414]

Charts I love you man and I agree with you on many things...But why not just avoid government water altogether?

[The_Ultimate_Gator]

I can understand why a person would be opposed to being forced to ingest medication, as a matter of principal.

But as others have pointed out, many water sources contain naturally-occurring fluoride - in fact some water treatment plants actually have to reduce the amount of fluoride that occurs naturally in order to get it to the recommended levels.

There is no good evidence that fluoride causes cancer in humans, and tons of evidence that it helps prevent tooth decay.

In the grand scheme of things, the risk is virtually zero and the reward is a measurable improvement in the quality of life for millions of Americans. I'll give the government a pass on this one.

[MichaelJoeWilliamson]

Originally Posted by Gatorrick22

All you guys that think this is funny - laugh when your thyroid gland stops working properly because of all the fluorine you've ingested. Look up the thyroid, Iodine, fluorine and chlorine connection.

Cancer is a hell of a disease.

Damn near anything that is ingested in high quantities can cause cancer.

[orangeblueorangeblue]

Originally Posted by The_Ultimate_Gator

In the grand scheme of things, the risk is virtually zero and the reward is a measurable improvement in the quality of life for millions of Americans. I'll give the government a pass on this one.

I'd rather they spend fluorination money on giving out free toothpaste than directly putting it in our water.

[SmootyGator]

Don't they put chlorine in tap water too? Isn't that harmful to humans as well? I'm sure I could find a study that shows if I drank a bunch of chlorine, bad things would happen. ChlorineGate, anyone?