Randy Moss: "I'm the greatest receiver to ever play this game."

[oxymoron]

Moss is one of the biggest prima donna jerks of all time. Rice is the greatest football player of all times.

[secgator]

Rather amusing that the opinion of Moss being better is a better indication of....youth. For anyone outside of Ray Charles or Stevie Wonder, the choice should be glaring--Rice.

In addition to taking Rice over Moss, I would take another one from the older era ANY day of the week over Moss---Lynn Swann. At his prime, he was....just MHO....a better WR than Moss.

[gymgator]

What makes Rice even more impressive (aside from being a 1st class individual) is that he didn't have dominating tools. As in, he was tall like Moss, strong like Megatron or super fast like Tim Brown.

He was just the best. Period.

[CHFG8R]

Originally Posted by secgator

Rather amusing that the opinion of Moss being better is a better indication of....youth. For anyone outside of Ray Charles or Stevie Wonder, the choice should be glaring--Rice.

In addition to taking Rice over Moss, I would take another one from the older era ANY day of the week over Moss---Lynn Swann. At his prime, he was....just MHO....a better WR than Moss.

Personally, I'll take Stalworth over Swann. Just sayin'.

[nawlinsgator]

Originally Posted by gatordavisl

Unbelievable the way this discussion has gone. There is much more than physical talent involved with being a football player. So Moss is taller and probably faster. Those who want Moss can have him. I'll take Rice, his work ethic, and what he's got between his ears EVERY time.

BTW - I wonder how many of you actually watched Jerry Rice play during his time.

100% agree.
All these young bucks probably have never seen Jerry Rice play.
Moss may have a slight edge on speed and reach. But if Moss is a 10 in these categoreis, Rice was a 9.
But Rice was much better at route running, creating separation, and had hands of glue.
Plus he never takes a play off. Works his ass of during the offseason. And that's why he was so consistently productive throughout most of his career. I'll take Jerry Rice every time.

[nawlinsgator]

Originally Posted by GATORAZ

Nobody was better than Prime Moss

You better quit while you're behind. People will start questioning your recruiting acumen next.

[qwghlmgator]

Considering that:

1. Moss tried to be a Gator and failed, and
2. Moss is actually an ex-Nole, and
3. Moss is actually an ex-Domer, therefore

Moss sucks. Rice is awesome.

[RayUF07]

Originally Posted by GATORAZ

I am saying Moss was the better player and thats the guy I want. You can say he could have been better. I am saying what he was, was still better than Rice.

I am saying you are wrong. You will be very alone in your world of Randy being better than Rice.

Perhaps you should head back to recruiting...you appear to be much better at that. I'm starting to see why. Recruiting is more about potential and measurables; playing football and being judged on your place in history is about what you have actually done. You definitely fall for the former.

[Welshgator]

I really have respect for Rice's work ethic. He really was a 'professional' football player unlike some of the guys like Marcedes Lewis, who think they are great for just being employed in the NFL. I have no doubt that Rice was better and achieved more than Moss.

[CHFG8R]

Originally Posted by qwghlmgator

Considering that:

1. Moss tried to be a Gator and failed, and
2. Moss is actually an ex-Nole, and
3. Moss is actually an ex-Domer, therefore

Moss sucks. Rice is awesome.

Though I heard today on the radio that is daughter currently plays hoops for UF. Wonder if that has anything to do with his relationship with Billy (through JWil and I think Moss may have even played for Billy for a bit at Marshall. . . though I'm not sure).

[CHFG8R]

Originally Posted by nawlinsgator

100% agree.
All these young bucks probably have never seen Jerry Rice play.
Moss may have a slight edge on speed and reach. But if Moss is a 10 in these categoreis, Rice was a 9.
But Rice was much better at route running, creating separation, and had hands of glue.
Plus he never takes a play off. Works his ass of during the offseason. And that's why he was so consistently productive throughout most of his career. I'll take Jerry Rice every time.

I remember watching an interview with Rice about 15 years ago (Tom Jackson) where they were talking while throwing the ball back and forth. What was remarkable, IMO, was the way Rice, even in that casual setting, watched every ball all the way into his hands. Sorta like Pete Rose watching the ball into the catcher's glove (there's another one you younger guys probably don't remember).

That, my friends, is dedication to the craft and something any young receiver could learn a lot from.

[gatorcal]

I think people are arguing semantics here. What's Greatest mean? Moss was a better athlete and probably had more talent than Rice. But, there's more to it than physical talent. Anyone want to argue that Manning is better than Brady, Montana, etc? He probably has more pure QB skills/ability than anyone who ever lived and he would be in the conversation, but I certainly wouldn't call him the GOAT. Seems like a similar situation to me. You can have this argument at nearly every skill position. Is it about numbers? Wins? Tools?

[j7]

To clearfy what I meant by saying Moss was a better player than Rice is that if given the choice for one game I would want Moss in his prime over Rice in his prime. Very limited criteria I know and I should have made that clear.

[lurkingator1]

Originally Posted by j7

To clearfy what I meant by saying Moss was a better player than Rice is that if given the choice for one game I would want Moss in his prime over Rice in his prime. Very limited criteria I know and I should have made that clear.

Espn Mike and Mike did a break down of both guys in the prime of their careers, broken down by number of yards, Number of catches, number of touchdowns Rice won in every category. Taking that into account and the facts the Moss admits he played hard only when he wanted to and his over all demeanor I would say Rice will be remember as the better player. Moss is a better at tooting his own horn

[CHFG8R]

Originally Posted by gatorcal

I think people are arguing semantics here. What's Greatest mean? Moss was a better athlete and probably had more talent than Rice. But, there's more to it than physical talent. Anyone want to argue that Manning is better than Brady, Montana, etc? He probably has more pure QB skills/ability than anyone who ever lived and he would be in the conversation, but I certainly wouldn't call him the GOAT. Seems like a similar situation to me. You can have this argument at nearly every skill position. Is it about numbers? Wins? Tools?

Every NFL expert and player I have ever heard on the topic of "the greatest" seems to go with the same mantra. That being, there is room for debate re. "the greatest" at all but two positions in NFL history: Wide Receiver (Rice) and Defensive End (Reggie White).

Those two are slam dunks for the vast majority, most of whom know a hell of a lot more about the game than I do.

[tec68]

Moss is the greatest DEEP THREAT of all time.

He is in NO WAY the greatest receiver.

Jerry Rice is the greatest receiver and will be until Calvin Johnson retires.

[tec68]

Originally Posted by GATORAZ

Football is a team sport look at the teams Rice was on and look at the teams Moss was on. What does character have to do with who was the better football player?

Is this a serious question?(I am asking a serious question)

[IndianaStew]

I agree that Moss is the better athlete.

But that is not what this is about.

Rice is the better football player, harder worker, better leader, and better winner. Oh, and he also had WAY better numbers in a league that was not as WR friendly as it is today.

Its not even CLOSE who's the better WR. Rice by FAR. Moss could have been and was the better athlete, but his attitude precluded that.

[CHFG8R]

Originally Posted by IndianaStew

I agree that Moss is the better athlete.

But that is not what this is about.

Rice is the better football player, harder worker, better leader, and better winner. Oh, and he also had WAY better numbers in a league that was not as WR friendly as it is today.

Its not even CLOSE who's the better WR. Rice by FAR. Moss could have been and was the better athlete, but his attitude precluded that.

I might even debate this. Faster, yes. Stronger, perhaps. But who collapses first on "The Hill" that Jerry made so famous?

[ACmann]

Jerry never mailed it in, nuff said.