Fear and Oath-ing in D.C.

[ChartsandGrafs]

Interesting video and comments about the NDAA and the Obama administration.

[wargunfan]

FDR used powers granted to him as a result of declaring war on Japan. Now we engage in undeclared wars which have no end. These extraordinary powers given to the executive in the White House are only awaiting the man who will abuse them.
The ideological enemies of this country do not need to defeat us militarily. They only need to create an emergency large enough for us to destroy ourselves.

[ChartsandGrafs]

Originally Posted by wargunfan

The ideological enemies of this country do not need to defeat us militarily. They only need to create an emergency large enough for us to destroy ourselves.

How do you mean this? Do you mean domestic ideological enemies, or foreign ideological enemies? Perhaps you were vague because you meant both.

A lot of people are gladly willing to accept the idea that we have foreign ideological enemies, but when you suggest that we might also have domestic ideological enemies, including some working in and behind our own government, they tend to get angry and start throwing around the "conspiracy theorist" and "crackpot" label. It's much more comforting to believe that our enemies are outside the gates than it is to look inward.

The people who run our government know this, and use it to their advantage. They know most Americans will accept the Patriot Act and NDAA without entertaining any "conspiracy theory" thoughts. They know we'll default to believing that our government has our best interests at heart. That's why they've been able to lay the legal groundwork for a totalitarian police state without anyone asking too many questions.

In a more sane world, the passage of something like the NDAA, with all its monstrous implications, would create such a massive public outcry, protests, civil unrest, and chaos, that our politicians wouldn't even conceive of taking it to the floor for a vote. Unfortunately, we haven't been living in a sane world since long before I was alive.

[wargunfan]

Originally Posted by ChartsandGrafs

How do you mean this? Do you mean domestic ideological enemies, or foreign ideological enemies? Perhaps you were vague because you meant both.

A lot of people are gladly willing to accept the idea that we have foreign ideological enemies, but when you suggest that we might also have domestic ideological enemies, including some working in and behind our own government, they tend to get angry and start throwing around the "conspiracy theorist" and "crackpot" label. It's much more comforting to believe that our enemies are outside the gates than it is to look inward.

The people who run our government know this, and use it to their advantage. They know most Americans will accept the Patriot Act and NDAA without entertaining any "conspiracy theory" thoughts. They know we'll default to believing that our government has our best interests at heart. That's why they've been able to lay the legal groundwork for a totalitarian police state without anyone asking too many questions.

In a more sane world, the passage of something like the NDAA, with all its monstrous implications, would create such a massive public outcry, protests, civil unrest, and chaos, that our politicians wouldn't even conceive of taking it to the floor for a vote. Unfortunately, we haven't been living in a sane world since long before I was alive.

I was thinking primarily of Islamists who will try to create an emergency (dirty bomb, biological attack, atomic power plant attack etc.) which will allow an administration to use the NDAA provisions to round up Americans preemptively and hold them without charge or trial.
Americans have been so dumbed down regarding their rights under the Constitution that they have become sheeple. The NDAA only awaits the strong man and the moment for him to use it.