01-27-2013, 12:32 AM
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And put me down as one who has confidence in Gator QB Jeff Driskel.
I think we'll see a big improvement in him and all of our Offense over last year.
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01-27-2013, 02:30 AM
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Heisman Candidate
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Tim Tebow locked on to one receiver and doesnt go through his progressions to this day. But he was successful in part to his great receivers....
If Driskel has/had a Harvin, Murphy, Cooper, or Hernandez on his team then he would be allright in the passing department. Those guys were mismatches for defenses and were strong, could get separation. When u have those guys then you can afford to lock on to them. Because they will get separation sooner or later.
JD does not go through his progressions. I hope he learns to.
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01-27-2013, 02:38 AM
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#83
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I'll be "captain negative"..., lol. I don't. But fortunately I believe we can win with a game manager. That's the beautiful thing about the offense we run. Pun intended.
Holds the ball too long, doesn't go through progressions well, developed TERRIBLE habits at Hagerty (still thinks he can run around everyone). Has the tools but has trouble applying them.
This doesn't mean I think he stinks, as stated earlier I think he just has some awful habits that he's having trouble shaking. Can't "out athlete" in the SEC, which was basically all he did in high school. Funny thing, his younger brother already has the same bad habits.
I hope he overcomes them and becomes the qb we all want him to be. Even if he doesn't, we can still be succesful.
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01-27-2013, 03:17 AM
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JD needs Danny W. or Shane Mattews for about a month on how to read defenses and not hold the ball,private tudors this is legal.
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01-27-2013, 03:39 AM
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Jeff's field vision and reads should improve with better WR options and OL play. He also needs to get rid of the ball if no one's open or run for what yardage he can get. His current and new RB's should really help with little drop off--no slap on Gillislee-- just more depth.
He doesn't have to be all world, but like McCarron at Bama, don't take sacks and manage the team and audible out of bad plays. It sounds easier than it is, but his physical talent should allow this as he and Pease fine tune the offense.
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01-27-2013, 04:18 AM
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Heisman Finalist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1984Gator
Apparently you've forgotten that Florida had to commit 6 turnovers (more than half the season total) for Georgia to pull the game out and next year your defense will not be as good!
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He has a point, notwithstanding the Georgia game (where we could pull the upset next year-- no Florida coach in a quarter century has lost 3 straight to Georgia, if we do this time Boom will need to win the East in 2013 or a title in 2014 to keep his job)-- its not realistic to expect us to be a top SEC offense, I'm hoping for average an MSU level offense would be a huge step forward as would not being last in passing yards per game-- we should be better than triple option teams.
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01-27-2013, 10:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sleeze
Tim Tebow locked on to one receiver and doesnt go through his progressions to this day. But he was successful in part to his great receivers....
If Driskel has/had a Harvin, Murphy, Cooper, or Hernandez on his team then he would be allright in the passing department. Those guys were mismatches for defenses and were strong, could get separation. When u have those guys then you can afford to lock on to them. Because they will get separation sooner or later.
JD does not go through his progressions. I hope he learns to.
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In a spread offense you can lock onto the receiver because the QB is throwing to the receiver's helmet, not a spot on the field. BTW this is a good reason that some spread receivers tend to make good NFL slot receivers (unless they come from the Air Raid spread which has similarities to Air Coryell mixed with spread). I would even say that in the right NFL offense the QB can stare down his receiver for some situations.
What this means for Driskel is that his coaches need to do certain things for him and the receivers. The coaches can choose to spend extra time in the off-season working read progression or they can trim down the playbook to eliminate certain plays. I get the feeling that this is what happened last year. The coaches probably realized that read progressions and anticipation just did not click with JD or JB, and they trimmed the playbook accordingly.
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01-27-2013, 11:05 AM
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#88
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Heisman Winner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonas
I love the enthusiasm but FSU fans believed in EJ Manuel too. Just saying.
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For four years. Lol.
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01-27-2013, 11:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gator1986
Would anyone be willing to give mornhinweg a shot if it came to it? I mean he's got to be somewhat good coming from an NFL offensive coordinators sack...
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I don't think it works that way. Even Joe Montana's son is below average talent.
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01-27-2013, 11:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1984Gator
Apparently you've forgotten that Florida had to commit 6 turnovers (more than half the season total) for Georgia to pull the game out and next year your defense will not be as good!
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Who's was talking about last years UGA-UF game? I was talking about the statement "UF will be tops in the SEC in offense next year."
You're talking something different and defense...and I'm betting the Gator defense won't be as good either.
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01-27-2013, 11:53 AM
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Heisman Candidate
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Originally Posted by DawgFanFromAlabam
UGA returns a Sr. QB that was ranked 2nd in the nation in passing effiency, Gurley/Marshall at RB, a bunch of proven WRs including Mitchell and last years leading WR (before his injury) Bennett, the Oline and good TEs. The offense was ranked higher than UF's by a wide margin. But you think UF will go from #114 and dead last in the SEC in passing and 104th and 12th in the SEC in total offense to "tops in the SEC" replacing over half your Oline, your one receiving threat and your Sr. RB that had most of your carries?
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So, are you saying Driskel sucks?
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01-27-2013, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by GatorAvatar
I don't think it works that way. Even Joe Montana's son is below average talent.
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That's why I said chance.. Lol don't have to make him play every game if he sucks then goodbye
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01-27-2013, 12:41 PM
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#93
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Heisman Winner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gator1986
That's why I said chance.. Lol don't have to make him play every game if he sucks then goodbye
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Ok...fair enough.
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01-27-2013, 12:44 PM
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People keep missing the point about Driskel. He can't stand in the pocket, scan the field, go through his reads and throw the ball into a tight window. He also hasn't shown the ability to call, audible, change plays in the line of scrimmage. If he learns to do that we will win a championship. If not, we will keep blaming everyone else except him.
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01-27-2013, 12:59 PM
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Heisman Finalist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorAvatar
People keep missing the point about Driskel. He can't stand in the pocket, scan the field, go through his reads and throw the ball into a tight window. He also hasn't shown the ability to call, audible, change plays in the line of scrimmage. If he learns to do that we will win a championship. If not, we will keep blaming everyone else except him.
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This, I don't get how we're supposed to "support a gator" but the way people go about supporting one guy is by throwing a dozen or so under the bus- are the WRs and OL not Gators- or is it okay to say they're mediocre just so long as we can pretend the QBs not at fault.
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01-27-2013, 02:21 PM
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driskel didn't improve much during the year---hopefully after another spring and summer practice, he comes out with a much better passing game. But, the oline was average the WRs were terrible. Better talent will help.
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01-27-2013, 02:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ovillegator
Pease will have far more tools in place to run his offense. Driskel will have a great off-season, I am sure. I see only brihgt skies ahead, and they are orange-and-blue!
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This is true and we are stacked on recruits. we have WR's now and Joker I think was a good hire for WRC. With that said, the off season will be full of Jeff throwing long to maximize our WRs.
Here is what I love about Driskel....... He is programmable. So many QB's have their own style from growing up and playing through high school and can potentially be difficult to mold. What I saw in Jeff this year is that he is quick to evolve and can be programmed like a raw hard drive to a PC. Look at what he learned and implemented on the field for 2012 and imagine what he will contribute for 2013.
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01-27-2013, 02:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rounds
So, are you saying Driskel sucks?
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Didn't even mention him. Nice try though. So anything I actually posted you'd like to discuss?
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01-27-2013, 02:49 PM
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Heisman Winner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by socraticsilence
This, I don't get how we're supposed to "support a gator" but the way people go about supporting one guy is by throwing a dozen or so under the bus- are the WRs and OL not Gators- or is it okay to say they're mediocre just so long as we can pretend the QBs not at fault.
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Very true. I would very much like to be,proven wrong. I sincerely hope Driskel comes back this year throwing dimes, cross routes, deep balls etc while standing tall in the pocket. I am not worried about his running skills, he does it well, but I'm afraid of injuries.
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01-27-2013, 03:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorAvatar
Very true. I would very much like to be,proven wrong. I sincerely hope Driskel comes back this year throwing dimes, cross routes, deep balls etc while standing tall in the pocket. I am not worried about his running skills, he does it well, but I'm afraid of injuries.
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I just think Driskel needs to see the field better, make quicker decisions, not lock on to receivers, and throw the ball away when he needs to. If nothing is open, get rid of it. Don't try to do too much. Those are all things he can control, whether the talent is around him or not.
But he gets another year. A young player, with little talent at receiver and suspect pass blocking should at least be given one more season before anybody says he can't get it done.
But this "11-2 with Jeff as a starter" has to stop. A brilliant, playmaking defense, combined with a smashing running game and sound special teams were what got the Gators eleven wins. Driskel made some plays, and at times he was effective, but he was mostly along for the ride.
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