Choking On Socialism

[Burke]

Greeks are having to turn to wood burning for heat because they can no longer afford heating oil, and the consequences are dire.

http://news.yahoo.com/crisis-greeks-...075647978.html

It's interesting to see a modern civilization collapse. Progressive thought is really just "progress" in reverse, people going back to doing things the way they were done in the past and finding out why they no longer do it that way.

I recall my grandmother, who was born in 1896, telling me once that "ANYONE who wants to go back to the good old days is a FOOL."

And of course, that's exactly where we are heading.

And those who are taking us there are much worse than my grandmother realized.

[G8trGr8t]

Greek opposition leader was on CNBC yesterday morning praising Obama's policies...PS..he is a socialist

[rpmGator]

We had a major cold front freeze Florida in the 1980's. The electric grid system didn't have enough power to keep up with all the people using heat.

So the power company had rolling blackouts. Each section had to be shut down for a set time, and then turned back on and another shut off.

When they turned on the section on the west side of the Butler Chain of Lakes, it blew the system up and that side was down the rest of that night into the next day.

A buddy of mine with a newborn, had a fireplace and had to go out and find wood to keep his family warm. It did.

Even capatilists have to use wood to keep warm at times....

[Juggernautz]

Originally Posted by G8trGr8t

Greek opposition leader was on CNBC yesterday morning praising Obama's policies...PS..he is a socialist

He can pat himself on the back for a job well done

[ChartsandGrafs]

Originally Posted by Burke

I recall my grandmother, who was born in 1896, telling me once that "ANYONE who wants to go back to the good old days is a FOOL."

I don't know. Do the 1950s count as the good old days? Because I wouldn't mind going back and living during that time. Malt shops on every corner, chrome on cars, and Buddy Holly songs playing on the radio doesn't sound too bad to me.

Who in their right mind wouldn't trade 2013 for 1957?

[GatorFanCF]

Who in their right mind wouldn't trade 2013 for 1957?

Read more: http://www.gatorcountry.com/swampgas...#ixzz2J8np2ZTl

Blacks?
Women?
USSR?
And, definitely Red Sox fans. Definitely.

[Burke]

I can get nostalgic for the '50's a little, but it doesn't take long for me to get bored with it.

[wargunfan]

The regression of Greek society has only just begun. It will be an education to watch their disintegration. But you won't find out about it in the MSM. The internet is your friend.

[MichaelJoeWilliamson]

[RealGatorFan]

Originally Posted by ChartsandGrafs

I don't know. Do the 1950s count as the good old days? Because I wouldn't mind going back and living during that time. Malt shops on every corner, chrome on cars, and Buddy Holly songs playing on the radio doesn't sound too bad to me.

Who in their right mind wouldn't trade 2013 for 1957?

African Americans.

[RealGatorFan]

But we can't go back even if we could. The idea of going back ont he gold standard seems like a great idea but we are too far gone to go back. For one, we have maybe .1% gold reserves to cover our debt. We would have to cut GDP by 80% to get back to where we can cover 25% of our debts.

The cost of living doubles every 22 years. Since 1971, the cost of living has quad drupled.

[RealGatorFan]

My financial advisor told me about 2 weeks ago that in order to plan for retirement, think about being around for 40 years. Retiring with a budget of $50K/yr seems nice now, but it will be worth $12K/yr in 40 years. Sobering thought.

[AC413]

Originally Posted by ChartsandGrafs

I don't know. Do the 1950s count as the good old days? Because I wouldn't mind going back and living during that time. Malt shops on every corner, chrome on cars, and Buddy Holly songs playing on the radio doesn't sound too bad to me.

Who in their right mind wouldn't trade 2013 for 1957?

Me either, buddy. Me either.... I'd go back in a heart beat

[MichiGator2002]

Originally Posted by ChartsandGrafs

I don't know. Do the 1950s count as the good old days? Because I wouldn't mind going back and living during that time. Malt shops on every corner, chrome on cars, and Buddy Holly songs playing on the radio doesn't sound too bad to me.

Who in their right mind wouldn't trade 2013 for 1957?

Anyone who owned a '60s-early '70s muscle car, to be sure.

It is kind of startling to consider how much we haven't actually accompished, in terms of lifestyle altering technology and science, since that period as compared to the first half of the 20th.

[PSGator66]

We need to take a hard, serious look at Greece since we are heading staight into their direction.

[Burke]

Are African Americans really better off today? From what I can tell, Dr. Walter Williams, a black, doesn't think so. When he looks at the stats for legitimacy, jobs, and some other things he mentions, there is no comparison. He thinks that blacks were much happier and more responsible then. (same for whites, IMO)

Both whites and blacks have better technology, etc., but drugs and violence are far worse.

Is there more or less racial hatred? I would say more, a consequence of decades of Marxist class warfare practiced by leftists.

Blacks (and many others) do have more being given to them, more handouts. Personally, I think that our economy is collapsing and that the "equality" we will be seeing is equal poverty and misery.

[Burke]

Michi,

I can remember when no one I knew had a television or air conditioning. But even those advances pale in comparison to the changes that have been wrought by the Internet. It's a revolution going on right under our noses that we don't really appreciate.

I would say that most of the political changes we see happening around the world are a consequence of it. They are happening much faster because of the Internet.

Just a few years ago, people thought I was a crazy conspiracy theorist when I wrote about fractional reserve banking and that banks create the money they lend. Now almost no one does.

It's incredible, actually.

Being older, I see it better than others who are taking it for granted, I think.

This little smart phone I have is like having thousands of encyclopedias in my pocket and a lot more. I rarely use my desktop now.

[MichaelJoeWilliamson]

Humans today are far better off than they have ever been.


1.) Humans live longer
2.) Humans have better health
3.) Humans are less violent
4.) Humans have more civil liberties
5.) Humans are wealthier

What is not to like?

Is earth a paradise? No. But life on earth is better than it has ever been. Why?

1.) More countries have self government
2.) More self government requires that business, individuals and government ALL follow the rule of law
3.) More countries are closer to market economy than a central economy, or one controlled by government.

[wgbgator]

Another dire Burke thread about the imminent collapse of something.

[VAg8r1]

Let's look how Denmark is choking under socialism