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Old 01-24-2013, 11:26 AM   #141
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Follow the storyline Rem, don't make up your own. I'm saying one and done sucks and uk is the posterchild for its endorsement. Have we not gone over this topic a cazillion times..? Or is this all about keeping you Jeff and Cal happy. LOL.

Josh should have plenty of time on his hands now to join NBN after being dumped by the Heat...

So Swamp are you saying not to recruit one and done types? I'm not sure anyone loves the rule you just have to deal with it! Where do you stand? Should Calipari go for players who are low level majors and hope they get better in 3 or 4 years---do you want him to have a team of Bobby Perry, Ramel Bradley, Joe Crawford, Woo Orbzut, and Shagari?

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Old 01-24-2013, 01:06 PM   #142
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No sympathy. He made his bed. Some years (last year), his raw, NBA mercenaries come together. Some years (hopefully this year), they don't.
Billy had the same problem in 2007-2008 and there wasn't one NBA mercenary on that roster.

A lot of talent with no leadership and no understanding of what they needed to do to make the NCAA tourney.
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:53 PM   #143
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So Swamp are you saying not to recruit one and done types? I'm not sure anyone loves the rule you just have to deal with it! Where do you stand? Should Calipari go for players who are low level majors and hope they get better in 3 or 4 years---do you want him to have a team of Bobby Perry, Ramel Bradley, Joe Crawford, Woo Orbzut, and Shagari?

Jeff

Yes, and I'll even throw in Saul Smith free of charge.
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Old 01-24-2013, 03:07 PM   #144
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So Swamp are you saying not to recruit one and done types? I'm not sure anyone loves the rule you just have to deal with it! Where do you stand? Should Calipari go for players who are low level majors and hope they get better in 3 or 4 years---do you want him to have a team of Bobby Perry, Ramel Bradley, Joe Crawford, Woo Orbzut, and Shagari?

Jeff
Crawford is the exception there, obviously, as he was a top 10 recruit that people were saying might go pro that year if I remember correctly, but that was 9 years ago so and I've been in a haze for many of the years in between

Agree with you, though, on the concept of the one and done. IMO, getting 1-2 guys per year that are 1 and dones mixed with solid guys to develop is the way to go. There are exceptions, like UK's class last year and the one coming in next year, but to do things the way Cal does it means you better be sure you get the right type of kids in there, as evidenced by this year's selfishness from a few guys.

Ideally guys like Wiltjer and Terrance Jones stay 2 or 3 years and they give you some experience.

Nothing wrong with going after the absolute cream of the crop every year. I think most coaches do a disservice to their schools if they don't at least try.
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Old 01-24-2013, 04:09 PM   #145
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I suppose the idea is to go after all of them, with the expectation that you might land one or two, if you're lucky. If you collar the entire field of one and dones, it brings up another set of issues.

I agree that you will not see another set of freshman like last year's UK team for awhile. I would hold off anointing next year's team until they show up on campus.
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