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Old 01-25-2013, 11:51 AM   #101
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hard left liberals get furious when people don't pay a high tax the government decides to impose and use tax planning to shift income to another jurisdiction, lower the tax rate or avoid the tax entirely.

Example: John Kerry's $7 million yacht (owned by his billionaire wife's company) - docked in Rhode Island which has no yacht tax. John saved $500,000 in taxes by keeping the yacht out of Massachusetts. For political reasons, John "decided" to pay the tax, but he should have refused.

http://nlpc.org/stories/2010/07/29/j...ch-republicans

Meh. Newport is more of a sailing town anyway. I mean, did he do it for tax purposes or because that's where the rest of the rich NEerners keep their yachts?
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Old 01-25-2013, 11:56 AM   #102
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That type of reform is impossible. People from the very start were bartering goods and service to obtain special favor. All reform does is catch the stupid politicians and drive the smart politicians to operate in the dark where they can't be seen.

The best approach is to take money and politicians out if the equation as much as possible.

How do you feel about:
1, Going back to the the system where the US Senators are elect by the State Houses in there home state.
2, Make it illegal for lobbyist to pay or treat US Congress men/women.
3, Campaign contributions can only come from private individuals who reside in or do business in the candidate's home district (for House of Reps) and home state (for Senators).
4, Term limits or at the least make a Us Congressman sit out a term after serving two consecutive terms.
5, Do not allow the piggybacking of an unrelated bill or budget item onto a bill.

Doing this has three impacts.
One. It makes it harder for a lobbyist to buy or influence a US Senator.
Two, it makes the US Senator more beholden to his/hers home state instead of to an out of state and out of country special interest. Also, it has the US Senator voting more in line with how the his state house votes.
Three, Cut down on the pork.
Like it. I thing, generally, the best thing is transparency. I've always hoped someone would do a website (I'd call it "followthemoney.com") that breaks down and analyzes all contributions and outs the major contributors. I've always said, if you want to know where these guys/gals really stand, follow the money.
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Old 01-25-2013, 12:09 PM   #103
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If the rich got their wealth illegally, press charges and have them arrested. If not just continue to envy and bitch about the wealthy.
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Old 01-25-2013, 02:26 PM   #104
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Like it. I thing, generally, the best thing is transparency. I've always hoped someone would do a website (I'd call it "followthemoney.com") that breaks down and analyzes all contributions and outs the major contributors. I've always said, if you want to know where these guys/gals really stand, follow the money.
Here's one, but it's not too specific. I've seen another that list all the contributors and I'll try to track it down.

Choose the "Politicians and Elections" tab on the navigation bar.

http://www.opensecrets.org/index.php
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:22 PM   #105
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Here's one, but it's not too specific. I've seen another that list all the contributors and I'll try to track it down.

Choose the "Politicians and Elections" tab on the navigation bar.

http://www.opensecrets.org/index.php
Someone should do this they way they did the "Fact Checker" thing. Dig deep. Make the very purpose of the site to really bother both parties. You could even start working in editorial content and maybe even gain some traction if marketed well. That is, if the media would be interested and not scared of pissing off certain advertisers.
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:24 PM   #106
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Here's one, but it's not too specific. I've seen another that list all the contributors and I'll try to track it down.

Choose the "Politicians and Elections" tab on the navigation bar.

http://www.opensecrets.org/index.php
That's a pretty good site.
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