2013 DE Robert Nkemdiche of Loganville GA. to Ole Miss

[DoctorGator]

Originally Posted by tmohah

StrangeGator obviously hasn't been to South Florida in a couple decades, judging by his "feel" for the diversity in Florida. Gainesville has all types and from all walks of life, and it is as diverse as any city in the nation of similar size and scale.

I've been saying this for years. Guy hates Gainesville, hates Florida, hates the south, comes up with all kinds of ways to put down UF and build up any decent school that a kid might be considering, but continues to bless us with his presence on the recruiting site. Its really an amazing study in human behavior. Like we really care about the 164 reasons why his daughters are better off not at UF...........

[gator1986]

Guy: The bigwigs have been talking about a lack of diversity among the news crew... Ron!!...
Ron: Yes?
Guy: are you paying attention Ron?
Ron: no
Guy: Ron do you know what diversity is?
Ron: I believe diversity is a large wooden ship used for war back in the 1800's
Guy: Ron I'm sure the bigwigs are not worried about our lack of use of a large wooden ship.

[your_perfect_enemy]

Originally Posted by red4512

You shoule go to the boards at Gatorports.com. They make these boards look like a love feast.

I venture back over there from time to time and am quickly reminded of why I left. Not only are they mostly a-holes but they're stupid.

[kbell42]

I like what they said on the ESPN recruitng show the other night. If he is such a lock to Ole Miss, why has he not pulled the trigger yet? There has to be something he really likes about Florida and LSU.

[UFreak]

Originally Posted by kbell42

I like what they said on the ESPN recruitng show the other night. If he is such a lock to Ole Miss, why has he not pulled the trigger yet? There has to be something he really likes about Florida and LSU.

Good point. I agree. Maybe he wants to be his own man and choose his own college and not have his brother, essentially pick it for him just because he's older.

[UFreak]

Truth is, no one knows. Regardless of what everyone says on here. We don't really know. All we know is that he hasn't yet committed to anyone.

[gatorboy27]

I would add my two cents since I'm his teacher, but last time I did everyone wanted to jump on and say they know him better than I do....although I've known him for four years.

[UFreak]

Originally Posted by gatorboy27

I would add my two cents since I'm his teacher, but last time I did everyone wanted to jump on and say they know him better than I do....although I've known him for four years.

Not me gatorboy27. I defended you. Look it up

[UFreak]

Originally Posted by gatorboy27

I would add my two cents since I'm his teacher, but last time I did everyone wanted to jump on and say they know him better than I do....although I've known him for four years.

You can always private message me and avoid the arrogant prickery element. I am glad to hear your first-hand accounts

[Jaggator]

Originally Posted by gatorboy27

I would add my two cents since I'm his teacher, but last time I did everyone wanted to jump on and say they know him better than I do....although I've known him for four years.

Everyone? I don't think so. A few posters may think they know it all but I'll defend the majority of the posters on GatorCountry and not allow a few jerks to spoil the party.

[Jaggator]

Originally Posted by UFreak

Not me gatorboy27. I defended you. Look it up

Kudos to you. I remember reading it in a recent thread.

[UFreak]

Originally Posted by Jaggator

Everyone? I don't think so. A few posters may think they know it all but I'll defend the majority of the posters on GatorCountry and not allow a few jerks to spoil the party.

True, but I wish it was like the old days when personal attacks weren't allowed. This board has gotten away from that. Bummer

[gatorboy27]

Ok....you're right. Not everyone. A**es like those that are arrogant and abusive make it so many don't web want to get involved in a post.

If you read my post on the other thread, nothing has changed much.

He does get to see orange and blue and Valdosta state red and black each day though.....and he's not into UGA, so no harm from the red and black.

[gatorboy27]

Ok. Not everyone.....those other arrogant a**es can make it unpleasant for many to even be actively involved in a thread.

If you read my comments in other thread, nothing has really changed.

He sees orange ad blue an Valdosta State red and black every day in my classroom. And he's not into UGA so no harm with the red and black.

[raquetclub]

Originally Posted by 1984Gator

South Florida IS very diverse but Gainesville, no...

the population of transplants is diverse, county residents are not.

[StrangeGator]

Pile on StrangeGator all you want, but the state of Florida has mandated a lack of diversity at UF and all the other state schools. I know the state Florida is diverse, but nothing is more stifling to a university campus than limiting geographic diversity. This is what used to make UF a leader among state institutions. Half my friends at UF were from New York, DC, Chicago or other parts of the US.

I don't know what the town of Gainesville is like now, but there's no way the student body, with only eight percent of from outside of the state boundaries is as hospitable to international students as private universities, who have no geographic predispositions for geography, or state schools that don't redline enrollment at 92% for in-state students. What is that going to to do for the school's reputation out of state?

The only way you're sure to get into UF from out of state is if you're a student athlete. Even then, how many will want to go through what Easley went through coming from Staten Island? Look how many out of state signees we lost from that class.

We're either a world class university, or a place where every honor student in Florida has a place. We can't be both. And we can't expect to attract student athletes from other parts of the country, or the world, to easily adapt to a purely Florida culture, whatever that is.

[GatorBen]

Originally Posted by StrangeGator

Pile on StrangeGator all you want, but the state of Florida has mandated a lack of diversity at UF and all the other state schools. I know the state Florida is diverse, but nothing is more stifling to a university campus than limiting geographic diversity. This is what used to make UF a leader among state institutions. Half my friends at UF were from New York, DC, Chicago or other parts of the US.

I don't know what the town of Gainesville is like now, but there's no way the student body, with only eight percent of from outside of the state boundaries is as hospitable to international students as private universities, who have no geographic predispositions for geography, or state schools that don't redline enrollment at 92% for in-state students. What is that going to to do for the school's reputation out of state?

The only way you're sure to get into UF from out of state is if you're a student athlete. Even then, how many will want to go through what Easley went through coming from Staten Island? Look how many out of state signees we lost from that class.

We're either a world class university, or a place where every honor student in Florida has a place. We can't be both. And we can't expect to attract student athletes from other parts of the country, or the world, to easily adapt to a purely Florida culture, whatever that is.

Just so you know, when you look at what are thought of as the elite state schools, we're not alone. For example North Carolina law mandates that UNC have 82% or better in-state students. Michigan and Berkeley on the other hand do not, although it is worth noting that percent out of state is under 25% and has been falling at Berkeley.

[StrangeGator]

Originally Posted by GatorBen

Just so you know, when you look at what are thought of as the elite state schools, we're not alone. For example North Carolina law mandates that UNC have 82% or better in-state students. Michigan and Berkeley on the other hand do not, although it is worth noting that percent out of state is under 25% and has been falling at Berkeley.

Big difference between 82% and 92%. Big difference between UF and Berkley and Michigan. I do know that Michigan and Berkley are both major destinations for thet tops graduates from my kids' high school. The most disturbing thing was that our guidance counselors had no info about UF. There was no outreach, no interaction with the counselors. Almost no UF admissions people were represented at the conferences our counselors attended. When we started asking our counselor about where our kids should submit applications, they asked my wife and I where we went to school. My wife is an Emory grad. He immediately said Emory. He had a great relationship with Emory and a lot of insight about how OPRF grads did applying to Emory and how admitted students succeeded there. He had nothing on UF going back four or five years. Neither did any of the other counselors. It didn't seem to exist. Even f$u came to campus every year for a presentation, as did UF until several years ago. Berkley, Michigan, NC, UVA, UCLA, Washington and UNC all came through to present to a full house in our auditorium. Almost every SEC school also came through to present. Private and international schools took up the other slots, all the Ivies, MIT, Cal Tech, Carnegie Mellon, The Claremont Colleges, Occidental, St. Andrews, UCL, McGill, Edinburgh and Glasgow. Williams, Amherst and Wesleyan. It wasn't like there were no UF quality students.

My twins wore orange and blue every other day of the school week. They were raised to believe that UF was a great global force in higher education. Then it disappeared when they got to high school. UF was invisible. It didn't matter what I said to them. There was not enough data to recommend a single application to the university. It became clear that the university didn't care if anyone from their high school or anyone else in Illinois applied to UF. Except of course Antonio Morrison, God bless them. No one from my kids' high school class of 3400 applied to UF, and 14 of them ended up at southern universities.

UF is not a global university. It may no longer be a national university, especially if it chooses to discontinue outreach to out of state schools. It has become a great regional university. More power to them. They will never get another dime from me, not that I have a lot of dimes left after tuition at other schools.

[Gatorrick22]

Originally Posted by tmohah

StrangeGator obviously hasn't been to South Florida in a couple decades, judging by his "feel" for the diversity in Florida. Gainesville has all types and from all walks of life, and it is as diverse as any city in the nation of similar size and scale.

You're not allowed to act snippy on your first post.... This ain't no political correctness forum either.

The question is: Do you think we get RN?

[GatorBen]

I understand where you're coming from, but it isn't a UF only thing. UT Austin also has about 8% out-of-state undergrads and falling.

Personally, I wish UF could and would raise the percentage out-of-state to supplement the budget. If they can't raise in-state tuition closer to market levels, increasing the number of students paying vastly more for that same education is a great way to make up the shortfall.

Of course the flip side is that even with in-state students being essentially the only competition now, you already have the loud complaints from many (voiced frequently on this board as well) that UF is already impossible to get into for a lot of very well qualified Florida high schoolers. Increased out-of-state admissions would only exacerbate that problem and at the end of the day it is Floridians that the state school has the political pressure to answer to.

On a related note, I get the picture that UF feels they can maintain the academic quality of the entering student body without much recruiting effort, in state or out. By way of example, UF cut hugely back on the value of their in-state National Merit scholarship a few years back so that its now a small fraction of what other state schools like UCF offer. But I don't think it has hurt them in terms of how many they enroll, so it is reinforcing UF's idea that they don't need to recruit much in state or out to still get the caliber of students they want.