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REM08 · 01-24-2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by oragator1

My point wasn't that road games are an end all be all, only that their schedule hasn't had as many road challenges as other top teams, further making the point they aren't as good as advertised.

Ahh, touche.

tommyuf21 · 01-24-2013, 04:13 PM

Being challenged, overcoming adversity and being able to positively respond to a variety of circumstances is what prepares you for the tourney.

You have a better chance of going through those experiences by going on the road early in the season and/or playing in a tightly contested conference.

Go2gtr · 01-24-2013, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by corpgator

All close losses and many on the road or at "neutral" sites. Duke was whipped by over 30. Margin of victory matters when evaluating team quality.

Don't try to make it sound worse than it was, they lost by 27 on the road.

What I'm saying is one or two losses do not make a season. I'm not saying they are going to win it all but I'm not willing to guarantee they won't because of one bad loss on the road with a key player out.

lean_gator · 01-24-2013, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Go2gtr

Don't try to make it sound worse than it was, they lost by 27 on the road.

What I'm saying is one or two losses do not make a season. I'm not saying they are going to win it all but I'm not willing to guarantee they won't because of one bad loss on the road with a key player out.

Actually, it was a LOT worse than that score suggests. It looked liked an NBA allstar game during some parts. The guy was only trying to point out that no team has won a championship who suffered a lost that bad. Duke has enough defenders on espn and cbs, we don't need any on this board.

maxgator · 01-24-2013, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by themistocles

The CBS fellow cannot do what he did.

This method is much like the Bible Code method. It is sure to always generate a seemingly high probability, because first you determine what characteristics qualify Winners and Losers, and then you generate probabilities based on your selections.

As a professional statistician and a former professional gambler, I can tell you for ABSOLUTELY SURE, that probability does not work this way.

Also, his simplistic probabilities in the initial statements "One in a Quintillion" are a fallacious way to do something like this, because as he so clearly notes, the Dance is set up to benefit the higher seeds, thus their probabilities must be weighted in any form of analysis.

By the way, did you know that coaches who's kids have polydactyl cats have a far less chance of going to the final four than coaches who's kids either have no cats, or at least cats with 5 claws on each paw.

That is the sort of analysis he just conducted.

What an annoying article.

GatorLurker · 01-24-2013, 11:04 PM

No 1st Round games in NC this year. Bucknell in Philly would be awesome. Too bad VCU will be seeded too high for a first round match-up there.

Go2gtr · 01-25-2013, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by lean_gator

Actually, it was a LOT worse than that score suggests. It looked liked an NBA allstar game during some parts. The guy was only trying to point out that no team has won a championship who suffered a lost that bad. Duke has enough defenders on espn and cbs, we don't need any on this board.

Bash away.

ArtVandelay · 02-05-2013, 09:15 PM

And there folks is the difference between us and Duke...

Even though we were awful tonight, we managed to fight and claw back to a respectable game. Although it wasn't as close as the final score indicates, we still showed flashes of why we are one of the top teams in the country.

Being down 23 a bunch of times and then down 27, we easily could have folded. Champions don't lose games by 25 points.

Go Gators!

gatordavisl · 02-05-2013, 10:19 PM

Miami is a much better team than Arkansas, Art.

ArtVandelay · 02-06-2013, 10:31 AM

Probably. As proven tonight, on any given day, teams can be beaten. Duke got hammered by 27.

We were down by 27 and then showed some fight and cut the lead considerably.

My point is that Championship teams don't lose games by 27, no matter who the opponent.

GatorAvatar · 02-06-2013, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtVandelay

Every year they put together stats regarding the profile of teams that have a shot at the National Championship. One of the big stats is that a National Championship team has never lost a game by 25 points or more during the season.

I understand that Duke was missing Kelly, but it sounds like this was a major @$$-whooping. Crazy to think that before last night, this team probably had the best resume of any team in college hoops.

Are there any fun stats that are out there regarding teams that win a National Championship (ex. no team ranked lower than X on offense or defense)

Disagree 100%. Stats don't mean anything.

ArtVandelay · 02-06-2013, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorAvatar

Disagree 100%. Stats don't mean anything.

Maybe they don't...but no team that has lost a game by 27 points has ever won the National Championship...

jcp · 02-06-2013, 04:45 PM

This thread kind of reminded me of http://xkcd.com/1122/

gator7_5 · 02-06-2013, 07:30 PM

Miami can't beat us by 25 at their place but arky could beat Duke by 11 at their place.