Touchy subject

[GatorAvatar]

Originally Posted by born2beagator

You just complimented him
Faith is what the entire christian belief in Christ and God centers around.

Good for him. I have no such blind faith. I believe in hard work, modern medicine, science and fate.

[born2beagator]

Originally Posted by GatorAvatar

Good for him. I have no such blind faith. I believe in hard work, modern medicine, science and fate.

All given to us by God, and we will pray for you btw.
The point is, we all have different beliefs, and I find it funny that you think telling a christian "oh you are one of the ones who has faith" is a knock on them.

anyways, this thread derailed just like the last one, and I am not going to go any further into the religious debate.

[NoahBeanBizzel]

Originally Posted by GatorAvatar

Good for him. I have no such blind faith. I believe in hard work, modern medicine, science and fate.

There's nothing "blind" about believing Christ's testimony. He came down from his throne and turned water into wine. He opened the eyes of the blind. He brought the dead back to life, and then he rose from the dead. He appeared to hundreds of people after he conquered the grave, and THOUSANDS of people witnessed the miracles he performed. Nobody ever denied that he performed the miracles; the problem was by what authority he performed them.

They weren't a collection of cute stories thrown into a book for us to debate. That all really happened, my friend-whether you choose to believe it did or not. If people want put their faith in science, modern medicine and their own intellect, that's fine. I'm trusting in JESUS.

[born2beagator]

Originally Posted by NoahBeanBizzel

If people want put their faith in science, modern medicine and their own intellect, that's fine. I'm trusting in JESUS.

The funny thing is, they really shouldn't be separate.

PS: I think this thread is about to get ugly

[tilly]

Count me as one who is proud to be criticized for my faith in Jesus.

...and I find it ironic that those who criticize faith are themselves showing faith that they are right.

We all live by faith to some extent.

Too Hot here we come...in.... 3...2....1....

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[NoahBeanBizzel]

Originally Posted by born2beagator

The funny thing is, they really shouldn't be separate.

PS: I think this thread is about to get ugly

Oh, I thought about that before I clicked submit. I can only handle so much vanity, though. I let it slide on almost every thread, but at some point you've gotta let it go.

[GatorAvatar]

Originally Posted by NoahBeanBizzel

There's nothing "blind" about believing Christ's testimony. He came down from his throne and turned water into wine. He opened the eyes of the blind. He brought the dead back to life, and then he rose from the dead. He appeared to hundreds of people after he conquered the grave, and THOUSANDS of people witnessed the miracles he performed. Nobody ever denied that he performed the miracles; the problem was by what authority he performed them.

They weren't a collection of cute stories thrown into a book for us to debate. That all really happened, my friend-whether you choose to believe it did or not. If people want put their faith in science, modern medicine and their own intellect, that's fine. I'm trusting in JESUS.

I'm not criticizing for the sake of criticizing. I respectfully disagree that if you pray to a cancer patient, the cancer will go. No it won't. So many people pray for peace in Israel/Palestine, but everyday people die. People pray for poverty to end...it will never cease. I could go on and on...but you get the point.

[Juggernautz]

Originally Posted by sparksel

Ok I know this is a touchy subject, but I have to see if I'm the only one who feels this way. Tim Tebow got blasted and criticized for going to the end zone and praying. Did anyone see what Ray Lewis did? He went to the middle of the field, and pretty much waited until there was 50 cameras around him before he dropped to his knees. This personally drove me nuts! I realize I'm going to get blasted for this post but I am curious what other people though

[born2beagator]

Originally Posted by GatorAvatar

I'm not criticizing for the sake of criticizing. I respectfully disagree that if you pray to a cancer patient, the cancer will go. No it won't. So many people pray for peace in Israel/Palestine, but everyday people die. People pray for poverty to end...it will never cease. I could go on and on...but you get the point.

To put it bluntly, you are wrong. So this person I know who me and my family had prayed for for months on end whose cancer went suddenly into remission (doctors could not explain why) and never came back was a lie? and there are stories like this :http://www.thedenverchannel.com/life...led-his-cancer

Those probably didn't mean anything for a cynic and skeptic such as yourself since you will write it off as the treatment being successful, so not sure why I bothered, but there you go.

as for Israel, the bible specifically said that they would be persecuted until the Lord's return. The middle east violence is never going to end, not so long as sin is still present in the world.