01-19-2013, 06:01 PM
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Army has to recruit...minor difference from USPS that makes a major difference
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01-19-2013, 06:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dangolegators
Why aren't you (the OP) complaining about the US Army sponsoring a Nascar team?
I don't think the US govt should be in the business of sports sponsorships, but the Republican-controlled House disagrees with me.
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This issue here is the postal service is bankrupt and the were funneling millions of dollars into the sponsorship. They were designed to be financially revenue neutral and are not so how can this be justified? If you want to start a thread on military sponsorship then have at it. Don't try to discredit my thought with a specious argument.
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01-19-2013, 06:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gatorman_07732
This issue here is the postal service is bankrupt and the were funneling millions of dollars into the sponsorship. They were designed to be financially revenue neutral and are not so how can this be justified? If you want to start a thread on military sponsorship then have at it. Don't try to discredit my thought with a specious argument.
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So advertising is ok for one govt agency but not another? And businesses that are losing money aren't supposed to advertise?
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01-19-2013, 06:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dangolegators
So advertising is ok for one govt agency but not another? And businesses that are losing money aren't supposed to advertise?
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I never said that, now can you get back to the argument presented please.
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01-19-2013, 06:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gatorman_07732
I never said that, now can you get back to the argument presented please.
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I've already stated that I am not in favor of US government engaging in sports sponsorships. Are you?
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01-19-2013, 06:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dangolegators
I've already stated that I am not in favor of US government engaging in sports sponsorships. Are you?
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Then why the argument? I'm just asking for a plausible explanation, but hey thanks for driving by.
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01-19-2013, 08:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gatorman_07732
Then why the argument? I'm just asking for a plausible explanation, but hey thanks for driving by.
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Given that you are so critical of the USPS, I'm asking you how you feel about the US Army doing the same thing you are criticizing the USPS for doing. It is relevant to this thread.
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01-19-2013, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dangolegators
Given that you are so critical of the USPS, I'm asking you how you feel about the US Army doing the same thing you are criticizing the USPS for doing. It is relevant to this thread.
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I am not a fan of either, but the Army does have to recruit new soldiers. The Post office sponsorship makes no sense.
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01-19-2013, 08:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dangolegators
Given that you are so critical of the USPS, I'm asking you how you feel about the US Army doing the same thing you are criticizing the USPS for doing. It is relevant to this thread.
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I am critical of the situation that they are bankrupt when then are supposed to be revenue neutral.
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01-19-2013, 08:38 PM
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Any way you cut it, the Army is broke as well.
The USPS is broke because they are the only part of our entire government that has to pre-fund future liabilities.
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01-19-2013, 10:27 PM
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01-19-2013, 11:09 PM
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usps "sponsorships" --- just payoffs of taxpayer money to connected "friends" in government--no surprise.
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01-19-2013, 11:25 PM
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Bikers = good
NASCAR = evil
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01-20-2013, 02:56 AM
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is that $10 million money well spent?
honestly, who is the U.S. gives a rats butt about cycling? Maybe during the Tour and only if an American is going for his 3rd or more title in row.
and now that the sport is tainted....
BIG WASTE!
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01-20-2013, 03:56 AM
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Business 101, you can't stop advertising because your books look bad. In fact, it often pays to do the opposite.
If you have a reason to attract new customers or sell a new product, you have to advertise.
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01-20-2013, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MastaG8r
Extremely High Quality Post™
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None of the stuff he said was true. They don't have a monopoly on sending letters and UPS and Fedex both pick up for free.
They have a monopoly on servicing mailboxes. You can send a letter any way you like.
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01-20-2013, 08:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by G8trGr8t
Army has to recruit...minor difference from USPS that makes a major difference
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they do not have to..... all services could save billions in advertising and recruiting if the country just brings back the draft.
Turn 18, mandatory 3 years of service gets you a 1/2 GI bill to get your AA, re-up fro 2 more years and you get a full GI bill for a 4 year degree.
Only medical exceptions, meaning even if you are a brain or athletically gifted you do your time.
As for going to college it only pushes you back min. 3 years. 21 to 25 instead of 18 to 22
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01-20-2013, 09:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 96Gatorcise
they do not have to..... all services could save billions in advertising and recruiting if the country just brings back the draft.
Turn 18, mandatory 3 years of service gets you a 1/2 GI bill to get your AA, re-up fro 2 more years and you get a full GI bill for a 4 year degree.
Only medical exceptions, meaning even if you are a brain or athletically gifted you do your time.
As for going to college it only pushes you back min. 3 years. 21 to 25 instead of 18 to 22
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Turnover and training would be cost prohibitive...try again
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01-20-2013, 09:25 AM
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And they spent like 40$ million on lance and his team imagine what they spend now
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01-21-2013, 07:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gatorman_07732
Look, the are designed to be revenue neutral and they're not. That's the moral of that story isn't it?
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Sure, however consider the centuries wherein they *made* money that they couldn't outright keep.
The Post Office will sunset soon enough, this is just the beginning. And yeah, every company can use advertising.
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