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Old 01-19-2013, 06:01 PM   #21
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Army has to recruit...minor difference from USPS that makes a major difference
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Old 01-19-2013, 06:01 PM   #22
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Why aren't you (the OP) complaining about the US Army sponsoring a Nascar team?

I don't think the US govt should be in the business of sports sponsorships, but the Republican-controlled House disagrees with me.
This issue here is the postal service is bankrupt and the were funneling millions of dollars into the sponsorship. They were designed to be financially revenue neutral and are not so how can this be justified? If you want to start a thread on military sponsorship then have at it. Don't try to discredit my thought with a specious argument.
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Old 01-19-2013, 06:23 PM   #23
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This issue here is the postal service is bankrupt and the were funneling millions of dollars into the sponsorship. They were designed to be financially revenue neutral and are not so how can this be justified? If you want to start a thread on military sponsorship then have at it. Don't try to discredit my thought with a specious argument.
So advertising is ok for one govt agency but not another? And businesses that are losing money aren't supposed to advertise?
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Old 01-19-2013, 06:27 PM   #24
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So advertising is ok for one govt agency but not another? And businesses that are losing money aren't supposed to advertise?
I never said that, now can you get back to the argument presented please.
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I never said that, now can you get back to the argument presented please.
I've already stated that I am not in favor of US government engaging in sports sponsorships. Are you?
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Old 01-19-2013, 06:49 PM   #26
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I've already stated that I am not in favor of US government engaging in sports sponsorships. Are you?
Then why the argument? I'm just asking for a plausible explanation, but hey thanks for driving by.
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Then why the argument? I'm just asking for a plausible explanation, but hey thanks for driving by.
Given that you are so critical of the USPS, I'm asking you how you feel about the US Army doing the same thing you are criticizing the USPS for doing. It is relevant to this thread.
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Given that you are so critical of the USPS, I'm asking you how you feel about the US Army doing the same thing you are criticizing the USPS for doing. It is relevant to this thread.
I am not a fan of either, but the Army does have to recruit new soldiers. The Post office sponsorship makes no sense.
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Given that you are so critical of the USPS, I'm asking you how you feel about the US Army doing the same thing you are criticizing the USPS for doing. It is relevant to this thread.
I am critical of the situation that they are bankrupt when then are supposed to be revenue neutral.
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Old 01-19-2013, 08:38 PM   #30
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Any way you cut it, the Army is broke as well.

The USPS is broke because they are the only part of our entire government that has to pre-fund future liabilities.
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is that $10 million money well spent?

honestly, who is the U.S. gives a rats butt about cycling? Maybe during the Tour and only if an American is going for his 3rd or more title in row.

and now that the sport is tainted....

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None of the stuff he said was true. They don't have a monopoly on sending letters and UPS and Fedex both pick up for free.

They have a monopoly on servicing mailboxes. You can send a letter any way you like.
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Army has to recruit...minor difference from USPS that makes a major difference
they do not have to..... all services could save billions in advertising and recruiting if the country just brings back the draft.

Turn 18, mandatory 3 years of service gets you a 1/2 GI bill to get your AA, re-up fro 2 more years and you get a full GI bill for a 4 year degree.

Only medical exceptions, meaning even if you are a brain or athletically gifted you do your time.

As for going to college it only pushes you back min. 3 years. 21 to 25 instead of 18 to 22
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they do not have to..... all services could save billions in advertising and recruiting if the country just brings back the draft.

Turn 18, mandatory 3 years of service gets you a 1/2 GI bill to get your AA, re-up fro 2 more years and you get a full GI bill for a 4 year degree.

Only medical exceptions, meaning even if you are a brain or athletically gifted you do your time.

As for going to college it only pushes you back min. 3 years. 21 to 25 instead of 18 to 22
Turnover and training would be cost prohibitive...try again
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And they spent like 40$ million on lance and his team imagine what they spend now
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Look, the are designed to be revenue neutral and they're not. That's the moral of that story isn't it?
Sure, however consider the centuries wherein they *made* money that they couldn't outright keep.

The Post Office will sunset soon enough, this is just the beginning. And yeah, every company can use advertising.
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